CEH report in todays Guardian.
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There was some research done in Canada if my memory serves me well. And from what it said its the over heating of e juice that releases the chemicals mentions in the guardian bit.
Just to clarify only going from memory here so take nothing as gospel. But I must say if there's only 2 cancers causing chemicals in e-cigs which real
Cigarettes produce along with umpteen more then I don't see what all the fuss is about. And if kids are drinking e-juice that irresponsible owners at fault not the manufacturers. There's a lad I work with who never smoked but started vamping because it's cool. I told him he is a cunt as vaping isn't there to look cool it's there to help smokers stop. I just happens to look cool as fuck when someone pulls a smokey the dragon and blocks out the sun for a few seconds with an enormous cloud of vapey goodness.
Just to clarify only going from memory here so take nothing as gospel. But I must say if there's only 2 cancers causing chemicals in e-cigs which real
Cigarettes produce along with umpteen more then I don't see what all the fuss is about. And if kids are drinking e-juice that irresponsible owners at fault not the manufacturers. There's a lad I work with who never smoked but started vamping because it's cool. I told him he is a cunt as vaping isn't there to look cool it's there to help smokers stop. I just happens to look cool as fuck when someone pulls a smokey the dragon and blocks out the sun for a few seconds with an enormous cloud of vapey goodness.
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One or two chemicals in ecigs huh? and if true (not proven 100%) In any event I will trust the report by PHE over the California Guardian 
oh and they should compare it with this nasty list found and proven that's in cigarettes 
Cigarette Ingredients - Chemicals in Cigarettes
oh and they should compare it with this nasty list found and proven that's in cigarettes Cigarette Ingredients - Chemicals in Cigarettes
What never ceases to amaze me is how polarised the entire debate is...and I'm doing it a huge favour calling it a debate. If you dressed the protagonists on both sides up in school uniforms and put them in a primary school playground you'd struggle to pick them out.
There are some clear truths in the CEH report but no one in the pro-ecig camp will credit them with that. Likewise there are some shocking omissions and leaps of faith in the PHE document.
I can understand why vapers might be so vociferous, albeit at total odds with the manner their objections manifest themselves online. I don't get where the motivation for scientists comes from.
There is a huge question mark over the production of toxins, the evidence to date is sketchy at best and this "95%" figure is utter bullshit. It's been plucked from a single study - that's not good science. It's no surprise this CEH study stick the boot in because it was an open goal. A stupid, unscientific error of judgement.
The fact that the Twatterati have rounded so passionately on anyone raising an objection to the PHE one or supporting the CEH study simply drives a bigger wedge between the two camps.
Given half a chance I'd have the lot in detention and be phoning their parents.
There are some clear truths in the CEH report but no one in the pro-ecig camp will credit them with that. Likewise there are some shocking omissions and leaps of faith in the PHE document.
I can understand why vapers might be so vociferous, albeit at total odds with the manner their objections manifest themselves online. I don't get where the motivation for scientists comes from.
There is a huge question mark over the production of toxins, the evidence to date is sketchy at best and this "95%" figure is utter bullshit. It's been plucked from a single study - that's not good science. It's no surprise this CEH study stick the boot in because it was an open goal. A stupid, unscientific error of judgement.
The fact that the Twatterati have rounded so passionately on anyone raising an objection to the PHE one or supporting the CEH study simply drives a bigger wedge between the two camps.
Given half a chance I'd have the lot in detention and be phoning their parents.
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Can't take seriously as it is from California, a state that is massively dependent on the tobacco industry for funding and stamps cancer warnings on everything, hell even my wetstone has a warning saying "Contains chemicals known to the state of California to cause cancer".
And as other people have said where are these vaping kids? I've never seen any, but I've seen plenty smoking.
At the end of the day, no it it isn't safe, but then again we were (almost) all inhaling tobacco smoke for years and every month they seem to find something more destructive in that.
Oh and as for this
If I recall correctly the LD50 of nicotine for an adult is between 500 and 1000mg, so either they are using a different definition of teaspoon to me, using nic base instead of e-juice or making this up.
And as other people have said where are these vaping kids? I've never seen any, but I've seen plenty smoking.
At the end of the day, no it it isn't safe, but then again we were (almost) all inhaling tobacco smoke for years and every month they seem to find something more destructive in that.
Oh and as for this
If I recall correctly the LD50 of nicotine for an adult is between 500 and 1000mg, so either they are using a different definition of teaspoon to me, using nic base instead of e-juice or making this up.
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