Cheap Dremel Mixer

[monstermash]

I reckon thorough mechanical mixing is bestest, especially with larger quantities and, for example, higher VG ratios otherwise how do you get 20% of thin viscosity PG liquid molecules to interact efficiently throughout the remaining much thicker viscosity (bigger?) VG liquid molecules at the other end of the container?

If you had to add a bit of water to emulsion or white spirit to gloss you wouldn't just add it to the top of it and put it in a cupboard you'd whoop them together there and then and they'd be of the same consistency throughout.

Plus it saves the arsing about with the 'shakey shakey' method.

The exact effect it has on the steeping / flavour improvement is probably subjective depending on the flavours being used, as said in one of the posts above.

Get the cake mixer on it, 60 seconds, high speed, WOLLOP! 100ml job done!

 

[peps1]

I reckon thorough mechanical mixing is bestest, especially with larger quantities and, for example, higher VG ratios otherwise how do you get 20% of thin viscosity PG liquid molecules to interact efficiently throughout the remaining much thicker viscosity (bigger?) VG liquid molecules at the other end of the container?

Heat

Has the advantage of thinning the VG and also increasing chemical reaction.

 

[monstermash]

Heat

Has the advantage of thinning the VG and also increasing chemical reaction.

Yeah I'm liking the heat principle. I don't like heat with plastic though as I think it would encourage leaching of the plastic chemicals into the brew. I put a glass bottle with the rubber pipette dropper on the radiator for 10 minutes once and it made the rubber prune up (like melt a bit).

What's the best source of heat then do you reckon for a bunch of mixed size glass bottles with rubber droppers on?

And is the heat simply enabling the shit to mix together....as I have a cake mixer (and a dremel and a few battery drills) that already do that?

I guess you're also saying heat encourages / speeds steeping though as well are you?

 

[peps1]

What's the best source of heat then do you reckon for a bunch of mixed size glass bottles with rubber droppers on?

For me (as taste is subjective, and I hesitate to say what is "right" or "wrong"), the best method I have found is using a laboratory hotplate stirrer.

I like to grab them off ebay cheap, usually broken and repair them (as they have two very simple components, a motor controller, and a simmerstat for controlling the heat-plate)

Got this one for £30

I can mix 30ml bottles with this no problem, even max VG when the heat plate is on.....But would have to decanter anything small then 30ml into a larger container.

And is the heat simply enabling the shit to mix together....as I have a cake mixer (and a dremel and a few battery drills) that already do that?

Its has other advantages, like helping the evaporation of the ethyl alcohol you have in may flavours, and as you increase the temperature the rate of reaction increases. As a rough approximation, for many reactions happening at around room temperature, the rate of reaction doubles for every 10°C rise in temperature.

I guess you're also saying heat encourages / speeds steeping though as well are you?

Yes, as steeping (to me) is giving the juice time for the alcohol's to evaporate, flavour molecules to infuse with the VG, and as heat helps this, without the downside of using a method of mixing that add air excessive to the mix (that will brake down aroma molecules and deteriorate the nicotine) its the option I chose, but as I say, there is little that can be called right, or wrong if the technique you use produces juice that you like.

 

[no_imagination]

I found running those milk frothers seem to add a harshness to the juice so only use them as a hand mixer now.

Agree with heat (water bath, 25-30 Deg C only) don't know about the whole aids steeping thing, I do it to thin the VG before adding the PG ingredients I've already mixed together in another glass, personally found it makes for a smoother mix sooner than mixing cold.