Simple is the best...

[vapervince]

After farting about wrestling trying to fit 3 core claptons in some tiny boro rbs`s I`d decided to dig out my flatwire and wind some simple coils, reading this next change I`m gonna, but I still say the secret to good flavour = good juice.

 

[LemmysCodPiece]

the secret to good flavour = good juice.

I agree.

 

[animal.]

No, I only changed it a few days prior. Just must of been a duff one or I might have damaged it putting it in.

Possibly. Had a couple pop on me in the past. Can only put it down to a hot spot causing a short in the coil.

 

[MTB Vaper]

Apart from the increased flavour and saturation from a good complex coil, in a RDA is I've never had a dry hit as you can tell its getting less saturated, and how the liquid is drawn into coil to be vaporized as the cotton starts to dry the coil gets a slight coil sizzle sound after a vape. So two easy signals you need to re drip.
Use good juice then also use a good atomizer and coils.
At the end of the day if your happy with round wire keep using roundwire. Just from my own experience with modern RDA's and RTA's a quality Ni80 coil makes a big enough difference for me to use them. Who's right? Well I am 100%

 

[MTB Vaper]

I've actually pondered on this a bit on how vapourisation works with how much air velocity is hitting the coil, if your a low air velocity vaper the difference from round wire to a good complex coil wont be that big. But if your a high air velocity vaper the difference is much bigger.
Air velocity matters hell of alot to vapour production, even more so on different atomizers.
I know people back from jacvapour cigalikes been vaping that long and still dont understand how hard you need pull on a certian atomizer to get flavour from it.

 

[vapervince]

I've actually pondered on this a bit on how vapourisation works with how much air velocity is hitting the coil, if your a low air velocity vaper the difference from round wire to a good complex coil wont be that big. But if your a high air velocity vaper the difference is much bigger.
Air velocity matters hell of alot to vapour production, even more so on different atomizers.
I know people back from jacvapour cigalikes been vaping that long and still dont understand how hard you need pull on a certian atomizer to get flavour from it.

You make a good point about the air flow / velocity, a low mass coil will cool more than a complex coil, which I`ve found to be more of a concern when DL vaping on a RDA and less so since I switched to AIO and bearing that in mind I wound some 7 turn 26 swg nichrome 80 flatwire coils that come out between 0.45 - 0.5 ohms and are giving good flavour in the high 20s watts. I haven`t finished fiddling yet and contact, micro and spaced coils will no doubt follow before I`ve finished.

 

[MTB Vaper]

Next time you rewick and after priming the coils fire it with no blow, then fire it with a gentle blow, then fire it and blow on it hard to see the difference. This velocity effect will be more with RDA barrel on with the concentrated airflow.
I find it funny some old school vapers dont get how air velocity effects vapourisation and flavour.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Next time you rewick and after priming the coils fire it with no blow, then fire it with a gentle blow, then fire it and blow on it hard to see the difference. This velocity effect will be more with RDA barrel on with the concentrated airflow.
I find it funny some old school vapers dont get how air velocity effects vapourisation and flavour.

I like to change the way I vape from RDA/RTA to RDA/RTA.

On some of my tanks like the serpent mini even wide open it is a slightly restricted DTL hit, on something like my twisted messes I like it wide open, which is a completely different vape.

I believe we have spoken about coils before and I mentioned I am not against more complex coils and would happily use some myself, but find a simple round wire build gets the job done so is what I stick to making. When I first started making coils I constantly had the drill out making things like fused claptons, just in the end I didn't find to me that it tasted any better than a simple coil that needs about 1/4 of the power, so could save a hell of a lot on battery life.

I also preferred it for my mech mods, as I didn't have to build so low I was nervous I was over stressing my battery from building to a pulse rating or heat limited rating of the cell.

Air velocity does effect vapour production and of course flavour, I find I just build bigger coils in my more airy setups than I would for something less, for example in my Vector RDA on top of my kindred V2 I have 4 of the 8 airflow holes open so half open, and have a simple 5 wrap 2MM 24G kanthal coil coming in at around 0.32 Ohms, this seems perfect for a nice warm vape that also works well on the mech, and isn't stressing the battery as I am well within its CDR.

 

[MTB Vaper]

It's all a matter of perspective, and type of vaper you are. I dont use temp control doesnt mean it's not good.
On these modern RDA's saying a good complex coils isnt better is just disingenuous.
I'm doing low builds and not stressing my batterys Molicel P50B or dual P45B 21700 setups and as these modern batterys are designed for fast charge, so charge time isnt an issue. 21700 batterys have advanced a good bit, great for us high power mech users.

 

[conanthewarrior]

It's all a matter of perspective, and type of vaper you are. I dont use temp control doesnt mean it's not good.
On these modern RDA's saying a good complex coils isnt better is just disingenuous.
I'm doing low builds and not stressing my batterys Molicel P50B or dual P45B 21700 setups and as these modern batterys are designed for fast charge, so charge time isnt an issue. 21700 batterys have advanced a good bit, great for us high power mech users.

See you might not expect it where I am using a mech, but I love using temp control on my mods that support it- this is another reason for simple coils. I have not found anything that works better than standard round wire coils for TC.
Yes, I am very interested in these newer 21700 batteries, I need to get a nice mech for using them, anything you can recommend?