Could Vaping help with Covid?

[Enoch]

https://www.driphacks.com/blog/can-vaping-kill-covid-19/

Interesting article about the effects of vaping when combined with Covid-19.

For those who don't want to read it, nicotine could help prevent the virus from entering the lungs at the receptor level. PG has been proven to kill both bacteria and influenza in the air when in a vapour form.

It is a shame not more people are talking about this.

 

[zouzounaki]

i didn’t think the article was very good or very well written. i wouldn’t rely on vaping as an antidote.

 

[Simon G]

It definitely shouldn't be thought of as an antidote, there is quite a lot of evidence that nicotine does have some protective qualities though.

I wrote about it in July after attending the NNA webinar with Dr Farsalinos (I'm pretty sure Dave did for the POTV news section too if I recall)

This was my take here.

https://www.myvapebox.co.uk/blogs/vaping-eliquid-blogs/does-nicotine-protect-against-covid-19-virus

It's tricky, because nobody wants to encourage people to start smoking which has more chance of killing you than covid-19 does.

Watch the webinar if you have time, it's very interesting.

 

[zouzounaki]

It definitely shouldn't be thought of as an antidote, there is quite a lot of evidence that nicotine does have some protective qualities though.

I wrote about it in July after attending the NNA webinar with Dr Farsalinos (I'm pretty sure Dave did for the POTV news section too if I recall)

This was my take here.

https://www.myvapebox.co.uk/blogs/vaping-eliquid-blogs/does-nicotine-protect-against-covid-19-virus

It's tricky, because nobody wants to encourage people to start smoking which has more chance of killing you than covid-19 does.

Watch the webinar if you have time, it's very interesting.

good article. you are right to say that nicotine as a substance needs to be separated from smoking. it clearly has some beneficial qualities for a few conditions. there are a few studies into it's effect on psychosis as well. it’s interesting stuff but if it’s continually demonised it’s benefits might never be utilised.

 

[Simon G]

good article. you are right to say that nicotine as a substance needs to be separated from smoking. it clearly has some beneficial qualities for a few conditions. there are a few studies into it's effect on psychosis as well. it’s interesting stuff but if it’s continually demonised it’s benefits might never be utilised.

Thank you and yeah, I agree completely. It's a proper clusterfuck too because the government says things like "Vaping involves repetitive hand-to-face movements, which provide greater risk of a route of entry into the body for viruses." which is probably true, so it's not clear at all if one potential benefit could be over ridden by another risk.

 

[Mawsley]

It definitely shouldn't be thought of as an antidote, there is quite a lot of evidence that nicotine does have some protective qualities though.

I wrote about it in July after attending the NNA webinar with Dr Farsalinos (I'm pretty sure Dave did for the POTV news section too if I recall)

This was my take here.

https://www.myvapebox.co.uk/blogs/vaping-eliquid-blogs/does-nicotine-protect-against-covid-19-virus

It's tricky, because nobody wants to encourage people to start smoking which has more chance of killing you than covid-19 does.

Watch the webinar if you have time, it's very interesting.

Yep, we’ve covered a whole wedge of the research and pronouncements here.

 

[scrumpox]

Smokers stink ... they're socially distanced by non-smokers, the clear majority of the population. Sometimes we overlook something obvious when we're determined to find evidence for a desired outcome.

Why immediately direct the research at nicotine? There are plenty of other known toxins in tobacco smoke that would make a smoker's mouth inhospitable to a virus.

Wearing masks is socially unacceptable everywhere outside of Asia, resistance persists. Who (not WHO) would do the research to propose something as socially unacceptable as vaping as at best a potential but ineffective inhibitor when smokers are being hospitalised? If smoker numbers were virtually zero there'd be something really interesting ... if it's just an anomoly then there has to be a scientific, holistic approach to the investigation and not an immediate jump into a preconceived agenda.

As for PG killing Covid-19, that's clearly bollocks. If it were true then hospitals would simply have to fog out their wards instead of kitting out staff with PPE.We've all seen fogging devices on the TV being used to cleanse infected areas, but that's a pretty toxic mix of chemicals and the foggers are wearing near NBC suits for protection ... if it was as simple and non-toxic as PG alone then there would be no need for the protective gear and every office and pub in the country would simply have to buy a fog machine.

No, until science proves otherwise, it's wishful thinking.

 

[OzoreXS]

Dont want to start a fire, but far from being helpful, vape (the exhaled aerosol) becomes a transport vehicle for the virus. This means that asymptomatic infected vapers can spread the virus, as it "floats" in the clouds.
Cant prove that, but I´ve read a couple of articles with videos of how its that behaviour. Since then, I dont even vape outside home.

Worrisome and plausible enough for me

@scrumpox , +1. PG is known for being used as a cleaning product even in operating rooms due to its disinfectant properties, but from that to saying it can helps somehow with SARS-Cov19, watch out.

Virus are neutralized with virus.

 

[ZT]

Dont want to start a fire, but far from being helpful, vape (the exhaled aerosol) becomes a transport vehicle for the virus. This means that asymptomatic infected vapers can spread the virus, as it "floats" in the clouds.
Cant prove that, but I´ve read a couple of articles with videos of how its that behaviour. Since then, I dont even vape outside home.

Worrisome and plausible enough for me

@scrumpox , +1. PG is known for being used as a cleaning product even in operating rooms due to its disinfectant properties, but from that to saying it can helps somehow with SARS-Cov19, watch out.

Virus are neutralized with virus.

You realise that exhaling without vapour is exactly the same but not visible.

Granted you tend to exhale harder to expel a vape - but no more so than jogging or exerting yourself in any other fashion (talk to @Mawsley about the research he’s done into masturbation exhalation).

the only difference is Vape makes it visible.

 

[Simon G]

Dont want to start a fire, but far from being helpful, vape (the exhaled aerosol) becomes a transport vehicle for the virus. This means that asymptomatic infected vapers can spread the virus, as it "floats" in the clouds.
Cant prove that, but I´ve read a couple of articles with videos of how its that behaviour. Since then, I dont even vape outside home.

Worrisome and plausible enough for me

Do you have links? The government still says this...

"There is currently no evidence that COVID-19 can be caught from passive exposure to e-cigarette vapour"

Is it actual doctors saying this? (UK or EU ones preferably, I'm not listening to the Americans on this) I'm pretty sure it doesn't 'float in the clouds'