Dafuq happened here then? This thread’s a train wreck :5:

[Mitz]

My understanding is that it's been around since at least September and at least a few countries.

My feelings? That the government are using it to justify the u-turn from "It would be inhuman to stop people seeing their families at Christmas" to whatever their line is now.

3 weeks to flatten the curve.... (which we did) ..... to this and what is going to come next.

The reality is that it's probably a good thing, a virus mutating into a less harmful/more easily transferred strain is exactly what you would expect it to do. The new strain may not be any more deadly than a common cold coronavirus... there's no evidence to say otherwise yet, so why the panic?

Maybe because there's currently zero evidence to suggest it's any less lethal than it was?

 

[Simon G]

Maybe because there's currently zero evidence to suggest it's any less lethal than it was?

.. so we'll just presume the worst?

The evidence is 'that's how viruses behave'.

 

[Simon G]

... and the one we have now isn't 'lethal' anyway.

It can be dangerous, but there's a very good chance you'll recover or won't even have symptoms.... that's not what I would call 'lethal'

 

[mick brown]

... and the one we have now isn't 'lethal' anyway.

It can be dangerous, but there's a very good chance you'll recover or won't even have symptoms.... that's not what I would call 'lethal'

If it were "lethal" it would kill everyone who caught it. It's just very dangerous to certain people.

Like ebola ( killing everyone)

 

[Simon G]

... anyway, I'm shutting down for Christmas, have a good one all and make the best of it that you can.

See you all on the other side.

 

[Mr Ripple]

Also, more infections are being registered because of the increased testing.

The amount of tests being carried out is not increasing anywhere near the rise in cases.
Something like 4% a week increased tests being carried out but cases are increasing weekly by Something like 40%.

 

[Mitz]

.. so we'll just presume the worst?

The evidence is 'that's how viruses behave'.

Over a long period of time, sure, and it can take decades.

We go by the data we have until proven otherwise. I believe it's what they call evidence led science.

Merry Christmas mate. Have a good (as can be) one.

 

[Mitz]

... and the one we have now isn't 'lethal' anyway.

It can be dangerous, but there's a very good chance you'll recover or won't even have symptoms.... that's not what I would call 'lethal'

Tell that to the people that are dead. They found it pretty lethal. You don't think a poison can be made less lethal by diluting it? If it only kills some people and not all, does it not have a lethal effect on the people it kills?

 

[andipandi]

If it were "lethal" it would kill everyone who caught it. It's just very dangerous to certain people.

Like ebola ( killing everyone)

The figures are 2000 and something persons have died because they caught covid and had no other underlying health conditions, some of those with underlying health conditions, might have died anyway, but the vast majority of them would be alive now, if they hadn't caught covid. Then there is long covid, how long does long mean, 6 months, the rest of your life?

Plenty of front line NHS staff have died, just doing their job, even bus and taxi drivers. Sounds rather lethal to me. Smoking doesn't kill everyone who smokes, however, one could call smoking a lethal thing to do. I would describe covid (and smoking) as potentially lethal, as are many other things, like snorting coke, or swimming with sharks. We chose/ choose to do those things, at least initially. People could have walked away from their jobs, but they didn't and for some, by doing their jobs, it (covid) has killed them.

 

[Enoch]

Tell that to the people that are dead. You don't think a poison can be made less lethal by diluting it? If it only kills some people and not all, it doesn't have a lethal effect on the people it kills?

To play devils advocate here.

we know that at least 95% of the ones who have died had serious health issues. Who would have medication to prevent them dying in the first place and ANY new virus would be deadly to them, much like even the flu would without a vaccine.

For the most part covid isnt some deadly pandemic as it is presented for the 99%, it is just deadly to those susepctible to any foreign virus entering the body.

The reality is, once we vaccinate the vunerable, suddenly covid isn't a dangerous anymore. In fact vaccinating 70 and over will see death numbers SIGNIFICANTLY drop to the point that it will be overshadowed by many other regular causes of death conveniently forgotton these last 9 months.