ECigs in the TPD Voted Today and this is what happened!

[Vape Geek]

Not at all! Bring on the eu in/out referendum!

But in/out of the EU is not gonna resolve the problem.
do you really think that out will remove the greed of the big pharma and tobacco companies??
not sure about that IMHO

 

[gords1001]

https://www.writetothem.com

This will find your local mps and meps. It even has links so you can write to all of them directly.

Please try to resist threatenibg physical violence despite how much some of them deserve it

 

[pez]

Why dont we create something like 1 petition instead of 10 000 where every single vaper would sign it?
lets unite atleast for once
clone or genuine stuff lovers
high nicotine and low nicotine users
Simple ego,or mod and atty users
if we dont unite now,very soon it will be too late.Put the differnces aside and spread the petition across all the forums around the world.
surely we can pick up few million signatures in no time,but when those votes are spreaded all over the bloody place,we will NOT be heard

I agree with your sentiments entirely, but how many of the 8000 plus members on potv got off their fat arses and even looked at any of the news threads that were put up. I think its fair to say that all vapers are aware of the situation but how many even bothered to vote from the planet. IMO not feeking many. They should all hang their fucking heads in shame.

Sorry rant done. I'll get back in my box and sharpen my things, for the revolution.

 

[hodge40]

Why dont we create something like 1 petition instead of 10 000 where every single vaper would sign it?
lets unite atleast for once
clone or genuine stuff lovers
high nicotine and low nicotine users
Simple ego,or mod and atty users
if we dont unite now,very soon it will be too late.Put the differnces aside and spread the petition across all the forums around the world.
surely we can pick up few million signatures in no time,but when those votes are spreaded all over the bloody place,we will NOT be heard

I concur,NOW is the time we actually can make a difference,today's vote was always going to go this way,but there's a long way to go yet and the decisions coming next will be made by people who work for US(even if they don't always remember that)

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[Vape Geek]

I agree with your sentiments entirely, but how many of the 8000 plus members on potv got off their fat arses and even looked at any of the news threads that were put up. I think its fair to say that all vapers are aware of the situation but how many even bothered to vote from the planet. IMO not feeking many. They should all hang their fucking heads in shame.

Sorry rant done. I'll get back in my box and sharpen my things, for the revolution.

Thats what im saying
lets get Mawsley(he seems to know his way around the gob)and create something simple,minded and common.
we are all members of different forums,potv,ukv aaec and so on.
if we spread the word in a right way,im sure lot more people will actualy join.
we need to unite.Vendors,members,admins.
And we will win
polititians will not stand in the way of few million people

 

[Mawsley]

Prohibition never has and never will work.

I've got the machine gun blues.

 

[Mawsley]

"I'm like a path of sheer destruction"

 

[EthelKing]

Right, this seems to come up time and time again. Let me ask a question, if I may?

How many of the 8000 members of the forum are ACTIVE, REGULAR visitors? How many are overseas members who wouldn't count in a UK or EU petition?

So, there are 8000 members on the forum - even if each and every one were eligible to sign the latest petition or whatever, that still leaves a shortfall of 1492000 vapers (if we assume there are 1.5 million UK vapers). Even if you take into account the members of other forums who are not multiple site members, I think you are still a lot of vapers short of 1.5 million.

So I would say quite loudly that no, not every vaper is aware of what's going on - only those of us who are passionate about what we are doing, and who frequent forums and the like. The vast majority of e-cig users will be cigalike and eGo users, who buy their supplies from one place and vape away quite happily. I would suggest that they haven't got a clue what's going on, because aside from one or two crappy articles on TV, there has been very little media coverage of the TPD.

Forget trying to shame people into a response - it will have completely the opposite effect. vapegeek has hit the nail on the head. I've droned on about the various responses in another thread, so won't bore you with that again. Now is the time for A SINGLE response for the UK, which all e-cigarette users can use to register their disquiet, and to support whatever aim is proposed - regardless of whatever barriers exist between the various online communities - communities who I suspect actually represent the MINORITY of "vapers" in the UK.

The single UK response needs to be promoted primarily by all vendors, closely followed by the online communities. That way the MAJORITY (or a lot more) will be reached. People are buying their vaping supplies from somewhere, and aside from the Planet, I am fairly certain they are not buying from any forum based marketplace.

Assumption is the mother of all fcuk ups - and I feel that when considering who is and who isn't responding, one must be VERY careful not to assume anything regarding who knows what and to what degree when it comes to a group of individuals with something in common - some will be passionate about the point in question and others who will have absolutely no idea at all. Just because they vape doesn't mean anything other than they all vape.

Sorry if my post comes over as a bit harsh, but finger pointing and angry words aimed at each other will do very little other than start to develop into contempt and conflict.

Just my thoughts (and none are aimed at any one individual, promise!).

 

[Mawsley]

Thats what im saying
lets get @Mawsley(he seems to know his way around the gob)and create something simple,minded and common.
we are all members of different forums,potv,ukv aaec and so on.
if we spread the word in a right way,im sure lot more people will actualy join.
we need to unite.Vendors,members,admins.
And we will win
polititians will not stand in the way of few million people

People keep setting up their individual forums/campaigning organisations and even a political party.

Out of 1.3million vapers in this country alone - only three people stood forward to stand on the body set up by Georgio to represent European vaping. This is compounded by the natural intransigence of anybody to ever do anything ever in the belief that someone else will take care of any problem.

They don't. Individuals achieve nothing, and single issue party running two candidates in staunch Tory wards will achieve nothing. Sending emails and Twitter bombs achieve nothing. Petitions achieve nothing.

Direct action is the only thing which achieves anything and requires effort.

If you look at the turnout at voting for any election (General/local/European/Union strike action) over half the people eligible to vote don't. People, in the main, are mindless sheep who take anything that shits their way and says thank you for it.

As members of this forum and as users of advanced devices, and knowledgeable about the subject, we represent a tiny minority of vapers. Out of this forum most will have done little or nothing with regards to lobbying.

As a way forward I don't see anyone being able to mobilise vapers. I think it will come down to a select few choosing to mount a fund-raising campaign in order to take legal action in the courts. Then those of us so inclined will hector all we can to raise those funds at a time when disposable income is limited.

I like Mark's positivity.

I feel a bit angry myself, and not really with the politicians who've done nothing more than politicians do.

 

[Mawsley]

But if we're going to have bad news then it might as well be this version