Click on the green text at the bottom eg "sign the f#$king thing"
I just clicked on it and it said I couldn't sign it again whoops! - I am losing track now of what I have signed
Right, this seems to come up time and time again. Let me ask a question, if I may?
How many of the 8000 members of the forum are ACTIVE, REGULAR visitors? How many are overseas members who wouldn't count in a UK or EU petition?
So, there are 8000 members on the forum - even if each and every one were eligible to sign the latest petition or whatever, that still leaves a shortfall of 1492000 vapers (if we assume there are 1.5 million UK vapers). Even if you take into account the members of other forums who are not multiple site members, I think you are still a lot of vapers short of 1.5 million.
So I would say quite loudly that no, not every vaper is aware of what's going on - only those of us who are passionate about what we are doing, and who frequent forums and the like. The vast majority of e-cig users will be cigalike and eGo users, who buy their supplies from one place and vape away quite happily. I would suggest that they haven't got a clue what's going on, because aside from one or two crappy articles on TV, there has been very little media coverage of the TPD.
Forget trying to shame people into a response - it will have completely the opposite effect. @vapegeek has hit the nail on the head. I've droned on about the various responses in another thread, so won't bore you with that again. Now is the time for A SINGLE response for the UK, which all e-cigarette users can use to register their disquiet, and to support whatever aim is proposed - regardless of whatever barriers exist between the various online communities - communities who I suspect actually represent the MINORITY of "vapers" in the UK.
The single UK response needs to be promoted primarily by all vendors, closely followed by the online communities. That way the MAJORITY (or a lot more) will be reached. People are buying their vaping supplies from somewhere, and aside from the Planet, I am fairly certain they are not buying from any forum based marketplace.
Assumption is the mother of all fcuk ups - and I feel that when considering who is and who isn't responding, one must be VERY careful not to assume anything regarding who knows what and to what degree when it comes to a group of individuals with something in common - some will be passionate about the point in question and others who will have absolutely no idea at all. Just because they vape doesn't mean anything other than they all vape.
Sorry if my post comes over as a bit harsh, but finger pointing and angry words aimed at each other will do very little other than start to develop into contempt and conflict.
Just my thoughts (and none are aimed at any one individual, promise!).
Words simply fail me
Head of nail firmly hit, and a much more eloquent and nice response than I would of made
Whilst we have holes in our arse and breath, Scotland wont gain independance, period!
Care to elaborate??
Click on the green text at the bottom eg "sign the f#$king thing"
I just clicked on it and it said I couldn't sign it again whoops! - I am losing track now of what I have signed
Couldn't have said it better! On our own we are just faceless numbers but togetherness brings strength! If we fight amongst ourselves then they have won-divide and conquer! We have to work as one if we are going to get anywhere.Right, this seems to come up time and time again. Let me ask a question, if I may?
How many of the 8000 members of the forum are ACTIVE, REGULAR visitors? How many are overseas members who wouldn't count in a UK or EU petition?
So, there are 8000 members on the forum - even if each and every one were eligible to sign the latest petition or whatever, that still leaves a shortfall of 1492000 vapers (if we assume there are 1.5 million UK vapers). Even if you take into account the members of other forums who are not multiple site members, I think you are still a lot of vapers short of 1.5 million.
So I would say quite loudly that no, not every vaper is aware of what's going on - only those of us who are passionate about what we are doing, and who frequent forums and the like. The vast majority of e-cig users will be cigalike and eGo users, who buy their supplies from one place and vape away quite happily. I would suggest that they haven't got a clue what's going on, because aside from one or two crappy articles on TV, there has been very little media coverage of the TPD.
Forget trying to shame people into a response - it will have completely the opposite effect. @vapegeek has hit the nail on the head. I've droned on about the various responses in another thread, so won't bore you with that again. Now is the time for A SINGLE response for the UK, which all e-cigarette users can use to register their disquiet, and to support whatever aim is proposed - regardless of whatever barriers exist between the various online communities - communities who I suspect actually represent the MINORITY of "vapers" in the UK.
The single UK response needs to be promoted primarily by all vendors, closely followed by the online communities. That way the MAJORITY (or a lot more) will be reached. People are buying their vaping supplies from somewhere, and aside from the Planet, I am fairly certain they are not buying from any forum based marketplace.
Assumption is the mother of all fcuk ups - and I feel that when considering who is and who isn't responding, one must be VERY careful not to assume anything regarding who knows what and to what degree when it comes to a group of individuals with something in common - some will be passionate about the point in question and others who will have absolutely no idea at all. Just because they vape doesn't mean anything other than they all vape.
Sorry if my post comes over as a bit harsh, but finger pointing and angry words aimed at each other will do very little other than start to develop into contempt and conflict.
Just my thoughts (and none are aimed at any one individual, promise!).
