France Moves to Ban Vaping in Public

[LilyRed]

Articles here in the Guardian , Torygraph and France 24 .

Not only banning vaping in public places, but the introduction of plain packaging for tobacco is included in the current draft legislation ... more stupid, ill considered legislation that achieves precisely nothing.

It did make me wonder for a moment whether French tobacconnists' lobby groups might have been partly behind the vaping ban after the incident back in December where a shop in Toulouse was banned from selling e-cigs after a nearby tobacconist complained, but it's more than likely larger (Bigger?) than that ...

 

[knome]

I vented spleen by Google Translating some English terms of abuse into French.

 

[tartanthing]

merde.

 

[remnant]

Interesting.

My first thought was, I can't see les vapoteurs taking this shit lying down (the way that most Brits seem to take just about anything)... ultimately, the tide is only going to turn when some government, somewhere, goes just a little bit too far, and it kicks off. France is an excellent candidate territory in this respect.

 

[epr64]

France has a quite special stance regarding tobacco. After WWII, France decided that tobacco could only be sold (monoploy) through the "buralistes". They gave the license only to war widows, etc...
This never changed, so, in France, you can only buy tobacco from those authorised resellers.
Of course, vape has nothing to do with tobacco. But the judge ruled that, as it involves putting something in your mouth to exhale vapor, it was a tobacco product.
Appeal is on-going, so there's still a chance to see this totally ludicrous ruling overturned.
For the public places ban, I don't know if the French vapers will move. AIDUCE (the vapers association in France) is against it, but the govt is using the same old techniques: have the press present a harsh legislation, deny, and pass a legislation that is a bit less harsh.
When you add to this that, for 2 million vapers, the EFVI has only a bit more than 14000 signatures in France...
It's easy to raise havoc against same-sex wedding, but for avoiding legislating out the best thing that exists for stopping smoking, it's a different matter altogether.
Just my 0.02€
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[bakedclouds]

I was in Paris a few weeks ago and I was shocked at the amount of vapers I saw. I'd say to every 5 smokers I saw 1 vaper. I saw about 5 b&m vape shops while I was there and the owner of the apartment we were staying in was a vaper. A lot more common than over here

 

[Fubar1977]

As with most of these ill thought out regulations, passing them is one thing, enforcement is quite another matter.
Many EU countries have stupid regulations regarding low-harm or harmless activities and many of these, whilst they may be "law" are widely ignored and laxly enforced.

That said, stupid regulations obviously shouldn`t exist in the first place.

 

[LilyRed]

I was in Paris a few weeks ago and I was shocked at the amount of vapers I saw. I'd say to every 5 smokers I saw 1 vaper. I saw about 5 b&m vape shops while I was there and the owner of the apartment we were staying in was a vaper. A lot more common than over here

Digging around the internet earlier to see if I could find more on this, seems the current figures are about 1.5 million vapoteurs (et vapoteuses) in France ...

 

[Mawsley]

Je pense que l'hiver arrive.

Je suis le Dieu de seins et le vin.

 

[Phartmaster]

hiver, n'est qu'une fiction.

vin est bon, les seins sont mieux.


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