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Interesting thread.
Conception of cherry varies on each country. Definetely

Here in Spain artificial cherry flavour is always fruity, acid, very sweet and sour.
I love it.

Thats why I decided to try this:
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It tastes like sour almonds and stale sponge cake. I hate it. Any idea to make it good? mixing with something?
 
Interesting thread.
Conception of cherry varies on each country. Definetely

Here in Spain artificial cherry flavour is always fruity, acid, very sweet and sour.
I love it.

Thats why I decided to try this:
ukt43i7m5bws.jpg


It tastes like sour almonds and stale sponge cake. I hate it. Any idea to make it good? mixing with something?

That's quite authentic then, that's exactly what bakewell tart tastes like to me. I really don't like them. There's loads of almonds in them, ground almonds, almond extract and flaked almonds in most recipes. The usually have that weird bitter almond taste.
 
That's quite authentic then, that's exactly what bakewell tart tastes like to me. I really don't like them. There's loads of almonds in them, ground almonds, almond extract and flaked almonds in most recipes. The usually have that weird bitter almond taste.
Aye, I was expecting a very sweet and rich dessert + a fruity hit from the cherries... but not even close to that.
right at the moment I opened the concentrate bottle I knew I wouldn't like it.

I will make some 10ml tests adding combinations of bits of other concentrates (I dont want to bin it yet).
1) + lemon + cinnamon
2) + strawberry + vanilla
3) + glazed sugar + doughnut + some jam
4) etc
 
Aye, I was expecting a very sweet and rich dessert + a fruity hit from the cherries... but not even close to that.
right at the moment I opened the concentrate bottle I knew I wouldn't like it.

I will make some 10ml tests adding combinations of bits of other concentrates (I dont want to bin it yet).
1) + lemon + cinnamon
2) + strawberry + vanilla
3) + glazed sugar + doughnut + some jam
4) etc
Have you ever eaten a cherry bakewell cake / tart, as your description as @Simon G says is pretty accurate, I quite like them sort of a marmite thing some people like them others hate them
 
Have you ever eaten a cherry bakewell cake / tart, as your description as @Simon G says is pretty accurate, I quite like them sort of a marmite thing some people like them others hate them
Never eaten bakewll to be honest, but similar. In any case, not my cup of tea.
 
Oddly enough, this vaguely related video popped up in my youtube feed.



.... I do watch this channel so not too odd really. :)
 
Oddly enough, this vaguely related video popped up in my youtube feed.



.... I do watch this channel so not too odd really. :)


Interesting. Actually I have my own example. I trim a lot of hedges throughout the year. When it comes to Laurel, apparently this gives off cyanide when you cut through the leaves. I do get a really strong smell of almond when pruning Laurel hedges. Not a good idea to put the clippings in a vehicle to get rid of them also.
 
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Cherry tasting notes.
RDA Advken Gorge
SS316 3 core fused clapton 6 wrap 3.5mm diameter with labo puff cotton
Tested on duel mech squonker in parallel

Inawera, real flavours, and FLV tested at 2%
The rest tested at 5%
All 70vg/30pg DTL

Tested for Almond smell and taste.
Tested for reality of fruit.
Tested for Sweetness.
Tested for strength guidelines.
Tested for overall rating based on full package.

Look at me getting all organised and stuff.....

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When I've got through all 19 I'll add my current favourite the Alchemists Cupboard Natural Black Cherry and select my favourite ones of these and do further testing on the ones that make the grade.

Molinberry Red Cherry suggested strength 6% +
Almond Smell 0.5 barely noticable
Almond Taste 0.5 barely noticable
Fruit Rating 3.5
Sweetness 2.5
Overall rating 4 out of 5

Flavorah Cherry Filling suggested strength 2.5% +
Almond Smell 1
Almond taste 0
Fruit 2.5 needs carrying
Sweetness 2 low given title
Overall rating 2 out of 5

Flavorah Rainier Cherry suggested strength 2.5% +
Almomd smell 1.5
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 3.5 well ballanced
Sweetness 1.5
Overall rating 3.5

Flavorah Black Cherry suggested strength 3% +
Almond smell 3
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 2.5 well ballanced
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 3.5 out of 5

Loran Cherry suggested strength 2-3% use as a layer
Almond smell 4
Almond taste 0 strangely
Fruit 4 however there is a distinct off note
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 2.5

Capella Wild Cherry suggested strength under 3%
Almond smell 2.5
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 4 tart and carries well however has a slight medicinal note
Sweetness 1.5
Overall rating 3

Capella Tart Cherry suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 2.5
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 4.5 well ballanced
Sweetness 2 not as tart as wild
Overall rating 4.5

Inawera Cherry V2 suggested strength 3% +
Almond smell 3.5
Almond taste 1 but it complements the flavour
Fruit 4 well ballanced
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 4.5

Inawera Cherries suggested strength 3% +
Almond smell 1.5
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 4.5 very well ballanced
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 4.5

Real Flavors Cherry suggested strength 4% +
Almond smell 4.5
Almond taste 1 surprisingly given smell
Fruit 3 Pleasant but it's like it's not all cherry - maybe some other fruit added
Sweetness 2.5
Overall rating 3.5

Real Flavours Wild Cherry suggested strength 4% +
Almond smell 2.5
Almond taste 0
Fruit 3.5 ballanced and clean however does make me feel like it's not all cherry
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 3.5

Flavour Art Cherry suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 1
Almond taste 0
Fruit 2 slightly medicinal
Sweetness 3
Overall rating 2

TFA Maraschino Cherry suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 3.5
Almond taste 0
Fruit 2 Chemically so needs a steep
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 1.5

TFA Cherry Extract suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 0.5
Almond taste 0
Fruit 2.5 ballanced but not popping - a bit lacklustre
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 1.5

TFA Black Cherry suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 4
Almond taste 1.5
Fruit 3.5 ballanced but not popping - a bit lacklustre
Sweetness 2
Overall rating 3

Flavour West Wild Cherry suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 1
Almond taste 0
Fruit 4.5 very ballanced and pleasant fruit taste but a tad on the sweet side
Sweetness 3.5
Overall rating 4

Flavour West Swiss Cherry suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 0.5
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 3 deep flavour like skin added and slightly chemical
Sweetness 3
Overall rating 1.5

Flavour West Black Cherry suggested strength 5% +
Almond smell 3.5
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 4.5 full fruit taste well ballanced
Sweetness 2.5 - 3
Overall rating 4.5

Flavour West Cherry Natural 5% +
Almond smell 2.5
Almond taste 0.5
Fruit 3.5 ballanced and very pleasant - impression it's not all cherry - another fruit added
Sweetness 2.5
Overall rating 4
This one contains colouring which is probably red40
 
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Interesting. Actually I have my own example. I trim a lot of hedges throughout the year. When it comes to Laurel, apparently this gives off cyanide when you cut through the leaves. I do get a really strong smell of almond when pruning Laurel hedges. Not a good idea to put the clippings in a vehicle to get rid of them also.

Interesting that he could smell cherries and said it was the benzaldehyde ... it does lead me to the thought that almonds (bitter ones anyway) do smell like cherries, rather than cherries smelling like almonds.
 
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