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Hi @u8myufo

Thanks for the reply!

So does that mean that I can't just buy a fancy looking (mechanical mod) E cig that has all the battery, electrical parts etc included?

Well it won`t be a mechanical one if it has any electrical components in it. It will be shaped like one though, take a look at Myepack for instance, you have the SVD which is tube shape, you can use it fully extended in 18650 mode or more compact in 18350 mode. You also have the MVP as suggested. There are others out there such as the vamo which again is a tube shaped mod. The MVP may not be to your liking being square shaped, but they come in fancy designs, they will hold a charge for a good couple of days even through heavy vaping, the MVP also has the advantage to charge your phone or whatever through a USB port. Not seen a bad word about them anywhere, it`s your call but just before you make a purchase just get back to anyone on here as they may well have a link to somewhere cheaper or a deal that might be on. Also have a look through the POTV market place.
 
The mvp2 energy line ones look gd if your after something that looks a lil different..myepack sells them if you want to have a look..! Really easy to use and great battery life..
 
So does that mean that I can't just buy a fancy looking (mechanical mod) E cig that has all the battery, electrical parts etc included?

Yes you can (sort of) however it won't do much for you unless you know how to get the best out of it. If you're a new vaper you're probably not there yet.

It's a bit like buying the most expensive camera in the shop to take good holiday pics, if you don't have the know how to use it well then a much cheaper point and shoot camera will suit you much better for a little while.

Vaping is a balancing act between 3 things the airflow, the power level, and the wicking. All ecigs are basically a heating coil wrapped around a wick. A battery powers the coil and heats it up, you draw through the mouthpiece and inhale the vapour.

the most basic starter kits are a fixed voltage eGo style battery (an evod battery is an eGo style) with a clearomiser like an evod on it that you fill with your chosen e-liquid. Using one of those you'll get an OK vape but you have little control over the quality of the vape. A bit like using the camera on your mobile to take pics.
the next steup up from that add variable voltage which lets you turn up or down the power sent to the coil. More power makes the coil hotter and hotter = more vapour and more flavour.

Next step up from that is a VV/VW mid range mod. An SVD an MVP an itaste VV or a Vamo are all good examples. they do more or less the same thing. The MVP and VV have built in batteries. The SVD and Vamo take rechargeable batteries and you need to also buy a charger and batteries to go with them.

All of them provide more 'ooomph' and give you more control over your vape. they also let you set it in watts or power mode. this is like "automatic volt control" though if you prefer you can change the settings in manual voltage control. This is a bit like your point and shoot average camera. (If you want to you can use manual mode, but you'll get good results if you set everything to auto, and it'll take better photos than your phone will)

Then you get to mechanical mods (the shiny ones that have the sexy engravings) these are completely manual. they provide the coil with the power that comes direct from the battery, no more, no less. When the battery is charged fully they are more powerful than when the battery is half charged, and will vape differently. You need to know what resistance the coil you're using is, what power level you prefer to vape at and how to tailor the coil you use to get the vape you want from the provided voltage. (which might all sound right now like gobbledegook but it's easier to pickup than it sounds) You can get a really high quality vape from a mech, once you know what you're after and how to get there. A bit like a full on everything manual camera with no automatic mode.

A mid range mod like an MVP or SVD and the batteries and bits you'll need in a full kit will set you back about £50-70 including a tank/clearomiser and some liquid, depending on exactly what you get and where from.

Once you have a mod the running costs are just replacement coils (or supplies to build your own, which is easier than it sounds) and e-liquid. Both of which are pretty cheap.

You will need a backup device of some description so even if after a couple of months you have picked up what you need to know and go for a flashy shiny mech you'll still have a use for your old device. If you go for something that takes batteries then you'll already have the batteries and charger you need for that. Any of the mid range mods will double as a useful coil resistance checker as well later down the road if you want to end up with a mech where checking the resistance of the coil before you use it is essential. (shorts are really bad)

Don't go too fast though. Pickup a midpriced mod that you like the look/features of for now and learn which liquids you prefer and which power settings you like and learn how to get the best out of that and then go for the super, shiny upgrade a little later on.
 
mr motivapr is right

get a MVP2 or Vamo v5

then you can use it's settings to learn about watts, voltage and ohms and see what difference they make when vaping
 
Vapercaper has given a comprehensive list there, and i agree.
If you are just starting out, then i suggest maybe getting a spinner, it is the same as your normal ego batteries but allows you to adjust the voltage to suit your needs.
Maybe see how you get on with a different atty, rather than evod, maybe go for the iClear30S or the protank, bigger tanks and both give good flavour and vapour production, another alternative is the Kanger T3S, 3ml tank and it gives excellent vapour and flavour.
The advantage of going with either the protank or T3S, is they use the same coil as the Evod.
Each and every one of us has different likes and dislikes so it is subjective to what you like the look of and what you want.
The only silly question is the one you DON'T ask!
We are all here to help, and that is what makes this place amazing!
 
I use the protank on my itaste vtr, such a great set up, I have tried iclear 30, iclear 30S and wasn't happy, I prefer anyvape davides and protank, have had no problems :)
 
@VaperCaper wow thanks for such a detailed reply! made a lot more sense than other things i've read on the internet. so just to clarify the mid range vv/vw mods can be left in an 'automatic' mode? meaning I dont have to play around with the voltage etc.? as i'd be too scared to mess around with that.


And thank you everyone else for your suggestions! blown away by how helpful everyone is on this forum!

personally I prefer the look of the tubes rather than the box shaped vps, but maybe thats just because i'm not used to seeing them.


:)
 
You almost have it right!

If you prefer the tubes then look at the Vamo V5 and the SVD.

You will want to tinker with the wattage.

The idea is start at a low wattage and take a toke.

Then turn the wattage up a tiny amount and toke again.

If it tastes better then turn it up again and have another toke.

Repeat until you turn it up and it tastes too hot / burnt for your liking.

Now you know the last setting was your sweet spot, so vape at that.

To illustrate.

Start at 6watts, tastes good so turn up to 7 watts, still tastes good, move to 8 watts and it tastes burnt.

7 watts is your sweet spot.

Once you have moved from an ego to a variable wattage device you will be amazed!
 
Super sound advice as always from VaperCaper,we vapers are blessed with some truly outstanding passionate and knowledgeable vendors :buttkisser

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