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I forgot to ask buddy but where can i find prebuilt 1.2 single coils that aren’t just some pissy mtl coils? Any website? Any seller from EU?

Second question…
I contacted a guy locally that makes series builds (aliens specifically)which equals to 0.3 ohms and he refuses to make me something around 0.5-0.6 (what you suggested for me) ohms since in his opinion, series builds are supposed to be vaped at 0.3 and lower.

I dont agree with his nonsense talk and you seem more relevant. Why is it that he wont make me any coil builds higher than 0.3 for my series? Is there any danger invloved over that range? Or is it just his greed and pride to try to make me look stupid for asking for a build that high?

Thank you :)
take the advice you have already been given, get some 26 or 28 guage round wire and just wrap it around a drill bit or something, u dont need someone to make you coils.

2-28/38 6 wraps ni80 will get you up around 1 ohm per coil, 2-30/38 6 wraps will get you maybe higher resistance than you want, aliens dont make much diff over fused claptons to me. You should be able to find spools online of that or prewrapped coils, its a common size, try to get one with a 38 or 36 outer wrap. (Thats the number after the slash)
 
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About the part where the coils need to heat up with a power source not too high.. what i essentially do is i take apart my mech mod and use it with one battery only which it was intended to be used initially(since its a custom 1of1 mod its a dual now) but can be used as a normal single.

Have you tried a build like your original 0.3 build in single battery mode? If the reason you want to increase the resistance is because your vape is getting too hot too quickly, allowing only a half second pull before it becomes uncomfortable, then the solution is to try to the same build with half the power. Series mechs are for people who *like* that "overpowered" vape - but it's not for you, is it? Why do you need an 8.4 volt vape? Have you stopped to think about that? :)
 
Have you tried a build like your original 0.3 build in single battery mode? If the reason you want to increase the resistance is because your vape is getting too hot too quickly, allowing only a half second pull before it becomes uncomfortable, then the solution is to try to the same build with half the power. Series mechs are for people who *like* that "overpowered" vape - but it's not for you, is it? Why do you need an 8.4 volt vape? Have you stopped to think about that? :)
No i think yall got it wrong, the problem is not the hot vape, i can desl with that and honestly isnt a problem.
The problem im having is a burnt vape, i feel like i need to juice up my coils every 2-3 pull since after that if i pull for more than like what feels a second, it tastes burnt.

I just dont understand how people on youtube use the exact same build with even lower ohms some, and each hit they take is at least 3 seconds long?
Do they like the burnt taste? Did they learn to ignore it? or what am i doing wrong i dont get it?

Like what do i do to be able to take long pulla without burning either my coils or my wick?
 
I forgot to ask buddy but where can i find prebuilt 1.2 single coils that aren’t just some pissy mtl coils? Any website? Any seller from EU?

Second question…
I contacted a guy locally that makes series builds (aliens specifically)which equals to 0.3 ohms and he refuses to make me something around 0.5-0.6 (what you suggested for me) ohms since in his opinion, series builds are supposed to be vaped at 0.3 and lower.

I dont agree with his nonsense talk and you seem more relevant. Why is it that he wont make me any coil builds higher than 0.3 for my series? Is there any danger invloved over that range? Or is it just his greed and pride to try to make me look stupid for asking for a build that high?

Thank you :)

Unfortunately professional coil builders only make very complicated coils - and they tend to cater for the niche market of vapers that are willing to pay for complicated coils that are of higher quality than mass produced machine made coils - professional hand made coils also last much longer.

When you are starting out with any mech it is best (in my opinion) to start out with slightly higher resistance dual coil builds (maybe 0.18 a pair for 4.2V and 0.65 ish for 8.4V). Both of these builds will be perfectly safe - if you find them timid you can always try a pair of coils that are slightly lower which will give higher power.

In the case of series builds I would start out with a simple spool of clapton wire. As you stated you don't find 0.30 too hot instead of my earlier suggestion of 26/36 Ni80 (26 is the gauge of the core wire/36 is the gauge of the outer wrap) I recommend you try 24 core Kanthal Clapton with an outer wrap of 32/34 or 36) and make a pair of 8 wrap coils - the resistance will be around 0.45 to 0.47 per pair of coils, they will be large enough to cope with 8.4V because the high number of wraps using a lot of metal means it can cope with higher voltage, unlike a physically smaller coil.

If you find this too tame and want a little more power - remove the coils and unwind one wrap. Refit them as a pair of 7 wrap coils cut away the excess leg length and try again. This will be a lower resistance higher powered vape (probably a little over 0.40 ohms a pair - but the 7 wrap coils will still have sufficient mass to cope with 8.4V.

If this is still too tame DO NOT REMOVE ANOTHER WRAP as although the coils will be lower in resistance, giving a higher powered vape you will be in danger of trying to use coils with insufficient mass to cope with 8.4V and they could blow - just like the second pair of coils you bought did.

Instead buy a spool of 24/36 Ni80 clapton - this is lower resistance per foot wire and a pair of NINE wrap coils will be below 0.40 ohms.

When wrapping your coils USE A COILING ROD - don't use 'a thin tool' as the wraps must be uniform in size and have the same internal diameter throughout. Every potential build I have mentioned above and approximate end resistance will be applicable for a 3mm Diameter Wrap.

Please build and check on your Smok mod - and if you decide to take a wrap off to lower resistance - RECHECK ON YOUR REGULATED MOD.

Once you have found your preferred resistance range for 8.4V vaping - then is the time to consider buying hand made coils made by a professional.

The reason you are only getting a couple of hits before you get dry hits is you are using a LOT of power with your 0.30 ohm builds - and a lot of power vaporises juice fast. An RDA doesn't hold a lot of juice like a stock coil tank or an RTA tank so you have to add juice frequently for a 200 Watt Vape. Whatever you do DONT PUT A STOCK COIL TANK ON ANY MECH - IT HAS A 'FLOATING 510 PIN' INSTEAD OF A FIXED ONE, AND THINGS WILL GO TERRIBLY WRONG.

I think the main reason professional coil builders won't build higher resistance coils for series mechs is there is little demand for them, series mechs tend to be used by the high power brigade - also if they used simple builds it wouldn't be 'professional' as things like single claptons are not difficult for a novice to make so they would be wasting their time. (I believe there is also competition between builders and any pro builder wouldn't be interested in selling simple wires because the competition could possibly take the piss and try to damage their reputation. Competition in business can be ugly - but I'm just guessing)

Don't forget to check everything on your regulated mod.
 
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Have you tried a build like your original 0.3 build in single battery mode? If the reason you want to increase the resistance is because your vape is getting too hot too quickly, allowing only a half second pull before it becomes uncomfortable, then the solution is to try to the same build with half the power. Series mechs are for people who *like* that "overpowered" vape - but it's not for you, is it? Why do you need an 8.4 volt vape? Have you stopped to think about that? :)
I have and the coils barely heat up lol
 
Hello fellow gentlemen!

Im fairly new to mech mods and I have ran into a bit of problem.

So im using a dual 21700 stacked mech mod(series obv) and I was using dual coils that was built for me that together were a total of 0.3 ohms. They are good and produce alot of smoke but i dont get to puff for longer than maybe half a second before it gets too hot and eventually burns.

I decided to go out and buy higher ohm coils that would allow me to at least feel like im drawing a bit longer and some taste.

I wanted 0.6ohms which seemed just about right for me. Unknown for me at the time was that buying two 0.6ohm coils and using them would result in a 0.3 ohms which puts
me right back to basically the same resistence as my old coils.
Knowing that I was like ”eh whatever, at least I got some brand new coils now” right.

But then i ran into another problem when firing the new coils up… It heated up so so quickly that it just split off the rda and melted! … but that was also a 0.3ohm so how could that happen??

Note that the new 0.3 coils were alot thinner than the other 0.3 coils that seemed to contain the heat better than the new ones and im just wondering why that is?

If the case is that the size of them matter BUT both of them are at 0.3 ohms.. then why would ohms matter at all? Why dont we measure the coils by their size if 2 of the same ohm coils with different thickness and size conduct heat differently?

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION because it literally drives me crazy!

I’ll also upload a picture of them
(the thicker one = 0.3 ohms dual)
(the thinner one = 0.3 ohms dual)
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