I'm having the vaccine when it comes out poll

[Rickster]

Not sure what your point is?

If you are saying that because a vaccine has not been approved for use yet and the data has not been published yet then it is too early to decide whether having the vaccine is a good idea. Then I would have to agree that you have a point.

I have also not seen any info on how effective it is for older people, who often have weaker immune responses to vaccines (there are positive results for an Australian vaccine for older people but it is unlikely to reach approval for about a year). Some people are letting their optimism get ahead of the current evidence.

Before any vaccine is approved for use, the data will be published and the regulatory authorities and other experts will get their chance to raise any safety concerns. I think the main division between pro and anti vaxers, is between those that will trust the experts and those that will prefer to believe any nonsense they read on facebook because the experts are all part of the conspiracy.

Personally I am not sure what the best strategy to counter nonsense on the internet is. Not long ago I would have thought that you counter bad information with good information but my faith in peoples ability to tell the difference is increasingly being eroded. I think this is a big problem for society that needs addressing, not just in relation to covid or vaccines. I do not have answers but it has to include educating kids in school in critical thinking. There also needs to be forums where idiots can come out of their echo chambers and argue their cases with experts.

Yip, all Im saying is hold yer horses... until we know more

 

[Rickster]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54949799

The impact of a new Covid vaccine will kick in significantly over summer and life should be back to normal by next winter, one of its creators has said.


If everything continued to go well, he said, the vaccine would begin to be delivered at the "end of this year, beginning of next year".

The goal was to deliver more than 300 million doses worldwide by next April, he said, which "could allow us to only start to make an impact".

He said the bigger impact would happen later, adding: "Summer will help us because the infection rate will go down in the summer and what is absolutely essential is that we get a high vaccination rate until or before autumn/winter next year."

Prof Sahin said it was essential that all immunisation programmes were completed before next autumn.

He also said this.....

"I'm very confident that transmission between people will be reduced by such a highly effective vaccine - maybe not 90% but maybe 50% - but we should not forget that even that could result in a dramatic reduction of the pandemic spread," he added.

So the 90% headline is already being marked considerably, I have no doubt a vaccine will come, but is it this one.

 

[oldhippydude]

He also said this.....

"I'm very confident that transmission between people will be reduced by such a highly effective vaccine - maybe not 90% but maybe 50% - but we should not forget that even that could result in a dramatic reduction of the pandemic spread," he added.

So the 90% headline is already being marked considerably, I have no doubt a vaccine will come, but is it this one.

The way I read that was that a vaccine that was 90% efficient might reduce infections by 50% over the period through next summer because not everybody will get a chance to have it by then and if everybody had it by next autumn then we could be more or less back to normal life by next winter.

I have no problem with a wait and see position with regards to whether this particular vaccine is "the one" or "one of the ones"
I also have no problem with people thinking that Pharma companies might over hype their products.
It is reasonable to want to be reassured that a vaccine is safe and beneficial and is soundly supported by the science.

If the regulators and other experts say it is safe, most people will take it when they are given the chance.
Many sceptics are saying no chance, no matter what the science or the experts say. This I have a problem with.

 

[andipandi]

There are people who are anti vaxxers, and there are people like me, who, at this point in time, just don't trust what we're being told. Let's face it, it's been a dogs dinner since the start, why should I blindly trust the scientists, medics and politicians right now?

 

[jcage]

Yeah, I am having it. I want to be safe, and I want all this craziness to be over finally. I am trying to improve my immune system still, and I take many vitamins and supplements and I hope that they will help me

 

[ADDicT]

 

[RuiG]

I worked for some time in an Hospital and I don't trust Ppharmaceutical companies.

Will watch and see.

 

[Fuctifino]

voted banana
coz there is no

FUCK OFF option

 

[Badboybez]

voted banana
coz there is no

FUCK OFF option

I take it that's a no from you then.

 

[Jd_]

I have one word...thalidomide

Im gonna wait for a bit to find out what the side effects actually r, which is probably just as well, since its gonna be hard to get for a while