Lockdown V3

[HAZZA1962]

@mick brown

I'm just watching this video, here's a grab of what they called excess deaths ... the zero line is the UK deaths average, for for 2020 it was about 15% higher and it's the first time it's gone up in 5 years... That doesn't necessarily mean it's direct covid deaths, they could be from anything... but it is up a significant amount.

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I couldn't find more up to date Data, I don't think they publish it till late January, but the Deaths in England and Wales, as of the 13th of November, were actually less than last year, I presume Scotland and NI do they're own data seperately now !!!

 

[Simon G]

I couldn't find more up to date Data, I don't think they publish it till late January, but the Deaths in England and Wales, as of the 13th of November, were actually less than last year, I presume Scotland and NI do they're own data seperately now !!!
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OK, well here's the ONS page...

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...andandwalesprovisional/weekending1january2021

It's pretty confusing, I think it's because non-covid deaths are way down, so while the deaths are down, excess deaths are up?

there's a lot there to try and understand and if I'm honest I don't understand half of it.

but "Deaths not involving COVID-19 were below the five-year average"

 

[Simon G]

I'm not sure what to make of any of it....

CO2 greenhouse gas emissions are down too but that's just because travel and manufacturing is down, not because the governments 'new green initiative' is working great already.

figures are used to make the point you want to make aren't they, I guess.

 

[mick brown]

@mick brown

I'm just watching this video, here's a grab of what they called excess deaths ... the zero line is the UK deaths average, for for 2020 it was about 15% higher and it's the first time it's gone up in 5 years... That doesn't necessarily mean it's direct covid deaths, they could be from anything... but it is up a significant amount.

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It was climbing the previous few year's (bar 1 ) by the looks of it. Strange. Perhaps a certain generation of people all reaching "that" age. Who knows. Well they do but we never will [emoji6]

 

[Simon G]

@HAZZA1962

This is from that page I linked to, this is the whole year with the 5 year average for every week. (in dots)

 

[Simon G]

you can kind of see why the government wasn't worrying at the start of the year, we were doing fine until the end of March.

 

[zouzounaki]

But buying it in advance when it's not yet become essential could be construed as panic buying.
Where would we be if people started panic buying toilet roll, for example?

don’t you have dish towels?

 

[Simon G]

don’t you have dish towels?

what are they?

 

[HAZZA1962]

don’t you have dish towels?

I know what my Wife would do to me, if I wiped up excess Juice with a Dish Towel !!! Or Tea Towels, as those in the know call them !!!

 

[Simon G]

oh..... tea towels.

I bet you call washing up liquid 'dish soap' too...................