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The decision by parliament's environment, public health and food safety committee to classify e-cigarettes as medicines has been condemned as "counterproductive and hypocritical".


The move - part of a package of tough new measures on tobacco products - was criticised by parliament's ECR group leader Martin Callanan, who said, "It is preposterous to classify e-cigarettes as medical devices.


"Thousands of people have given up smoking thanks to e-cigarettes. For the EU to over regulate them is completely counterproductive and hypocritical," added Callanan.


"Electronic cigarette production has become lucrative for many small businesses and many jobs now depend on e-cigarette production. By making the authorisation procedure for e-cigarettes so difficult, many of these small businesses will pack up shop.


"This vote is not the end of this process and we will be working with vapers [users of e-cigarettes] to make other MEPs see sense and support e-cigarette producers and users.


"The world has gone mad when tobacco is less regulated than products designed to end tobacco use," he warned.


ALDE deputy Chris Davies also opposed the decision saying, "If we want to reduce smoking-related deaths then we must ensure that e-cigarettes are as readily available as tobacco cigarettes.


"Classifying e-cigarettes as a medicinal product potentially limits their availability for sale to pharmacies, and that is the wrong thing to do.


"E-cigarettes are a potential game changer in the fight against tobacco because smokers find them enjoyable to use. They can help people break their addiction in a way that conventional nicotine replacement therapies will never do. They could save millions of lives."


However, he added, "There is momentum for change building up, and a realistic prospect that [Wednesday's] vote can be overturned when the issue comes before parliament after the summer recess."


Commenting on the e-cigarettes issue, Linda McAvan, parliament's rapporteur on the tobacco products directive, said, "I believe they can play an important role in helping smokers cut down or quit smoking. But they need proper regulation. E-cigarettes will therefore remain on the market and companies will have several years to adapt to any new regulatory requirements."


The UK MEP also pointed out that "stopping a new generation of smokers from being recruited is the top priority".


She continued, "Europe lags behind other parts of the world in terms of tobacco control, with 28 per cent of adults smoking, compared with 17 per cent in Australia, 19 per cent in the US and 15 per cent in Brazil."


It is currently estimated that over 700,000 people across the European Union die of smoking related illness every year, and that 70 per cent of smokers start before they are 18.


Meanwhile, public health spokesman for parliament's Greens group Carl Schlyter said that he was "delighted" with the outcome.


He said, "The public health committee, which has the lead responsibility in the European parliament, clearly resisted the huge lobbying pressure from the tobacco industry and voted for an ambitious revision of the tobacco directive.


"I am also very happy that the committee voted to ban characterising flavours such as menthol and also slim cigarettes. Ending the use of flavours and cigarette shapes that make this killer drug attractive, particularly for younger consumers, is long overdue."


"Likewise, it is a great step forward that the committee supported the commission proposal for a combined picture and text warning, on the front and back of packets, that takes up 75 per cent of the surface on packets of cigarettes and roll-your-own tobacco, instead of 65 per cent advocated by council," he said, adding, "Warnings cannot be big enough."


As for e-cigarettes, he said, "In light of the booming, unregulated e-cigarettes market, clear rules are needed. I am glad that a clear majority agreed that they should undergo a light authorisation regime as medicinal products, with a 36-month transition period."


EPP deputy Karl-Heinz Florenz also praised the decision to adopt the directive, saying, "There are more than 50 highly questionable substances that are blended into tobacco. In the future, all substances which cannot be classified as harmless will be taken off the market.


"Cigarettes are not normal consumer products. Even the very first cigarette has detrimental effects. We need to keep youngsters from smoking," he concluded.


The tobacco products directive will be voted on by parliament's plenary session in the autumn.
 
Even though my political leanings are shifting ever-more Green, I have to say that Carl Schlyter is ignorant and massively full of shit.
 
Even though my political leanings are shifting ever-more Green, I have to say that Carl Schlyter is ignorant and massively full of shit.
Edit - minus anger
 
I just had a rant about green political hypocrisy .. then deleted it .. coz they are all as bad no matter :)
 
I just had a rant about green political hypocrisy .. then deleted it .. coz they are all as bad no matter :)

I simply don't get how one of the fundamental Green tenets is that of libertarianism and yet all of the foreign Green MEPs are acting in a very authoritarian manner.

Last night I had an ongoing argument with a group of Greens from Northampton, they just didn't get it. They refused to accept that nicotine wasn't carcinogenic and clearly weren't open to discussion due to their repeatedly referring to vaping as smoking no matter how many times I corrected them. By the end I just got frustrated at banging my head repeatedly on the wall.

They even brought up the fact that there aren't any long-term papers into the effects of the exhale on the environment.

It's water fucking vapour that fucking rejoins the fucking water fucking cycle.

Dicks.
 
I simply don't get how one of the fundamental Green tenets is that of libertarianism and yet all of the foreign Green MEPs are acting in a very authoritarian manner.

Last night I had an ongoing argument with a group of Greens from Northampton, they just didn't get it. They refused to accept that nicotine wasn't carcinogenic and clearly weren't open to discussion due to their repeatedly referring to vaping as smoking no matter how many times I corrected them. By the end I just got frustrated at banging my head repeatedly on the wall.

They even brought up the fact that there aren't any long-term papers into the effects of the exhale on the environment.

It's water fucking vapour that fucking rejoins the fucking water fucking cycle.

Dicks.

You are surprised that a political group that partially consists of old lefty student who protested eating meat while wearing leather doc martins are hypocritical ?
 
You are surprised that a political group that partially consists of old lefty student who protested eating meat while wearing leather doc martins are hypocritical ?

The rank stupidity of humanity never surprises me, but I do find it continually depressing.

And there's nothing wrong with being an old, lefty stoodent :20:
 
Not while you were a lefty student there wasn't.

i have always erred left myself, more recently I'm seeing there is no left anymore ... Yet the left brigade still follow them blindly, rather than set up opposition.


take the two main parties, we have right, and slightly less right.
 
There's no viable left to vote for, for sure, so I sit at home reading books about agrarian anarchy, feeding the chickens and plotting my one-man revolution.

Come the glorious day, brothers and sisters, I'll be lining everyone up against the wall and giving them a basket of organic produce.
 
There is a viable left in Wales though, at least since Leanne Wood became leader of Plaid Cymru.

However, I'm not sure about our MEP, Jill Evans. Do we know any more about who the 25 MEPs are who are on our side?
 
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