MTL recommendations

[samcc]

I have been vaping for a few weeks using a Wismec Active (adding a 20mg nic salt to 50mg liquid) and I enjoy it but struggling to stop smoking. (my plan was to gradually cut down and use vaping as an aid) and I just have a couple of questions.

Is it right that adding a 20mg nic salt to 50 ml liquid equates to around 3mg nicotine? I have been told it is way too low and need around 18mg when first stopping smoking to be satisfied.. Is there a way to get to 18 mg without buying pre mixed liquids?

I have been told that mtl vaping is a lot better for stopping smoking, is that true?

Also what is the best mod and tank for mtl vaping (UK) if money isn't an issue?

Thanks in advance, Sam.

 

[Arawn1975!]

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secondly: one of the mtl apes will be along directly to point you in the direction you need to go so hold tight and get comfy.

 

[Deleted member 58360]

Is it right that adding a 20mg nic salt to 50 ml liquid equates to around 3mg nicotine?

Roughly, it equates to 3.3mg/ml.

I have been told it is way too low and need around 18mg when first stopping smoking to be satisfied..

That's a crap generalisation that's only relevant for some people. Everyone is different and what suits one person is way too high for another and too low for someone else.

It's partially dependent on how you vape too.

For me, going straight to DTL, 12mg/ml was too high and gave me over a fortnight long permanent headrush...

Is there a way to get to 18 mg without buying pre mixed liquids?

No company in the UK is legally allowed to supply anything over 20mg/ml, and it must be in 10ml or smaller bottles.

So, no, not easily.

Some places do specific shortfills designed to use more nic shots and can make up to 12mg/ml.

I have been told that mtl vaping is a lot better for stopping smoking, is that true?

For some yes, others no.

Certainly not in my case.

I quit smoking straight off DTL, MTL would not have worked for me - I was off fags and vaping for 6+ months before going over to MTL.

what is the best mod and tank for mtl vaping (UK) if money isn't an issue?

Best is subjective.

 

[samcc]

Roughly, it equates to 3.3mg/ml.



That's a crap generalisation that's only relevant for some people. Everyone is different and what suits one person is way too high for another and too low for someone else.

It's partially dependent on how you vape too.

For me, going straight to DTL, 12mg/ml was too high and gave me over a fortnight long permanent headrush...



No company in the UK is legally allowed to supply anything over 20mg/ml, and it must be in 10ml or smaller bottles.

So, no, not easily.

Some places do specific shortfills designed to use more nic shots and can make up to 12mg/ml.



For some yes, others no.

Certainly not in my case.

I quit smoking straight off DTL, MTL would not have worked for me - I was off fags and vaping for 6+ months before going over to MTL.



Best is subjective.

Thanks for the reply.

Would you recommend buying a pre mixed 6mg and seeing how I get on with that then?

I've heard tanks are designed for mtl or dtl, but are certain mods designed more/exclusively for mtl, or can any be used?

 

[eyeball kid]

I have been vaping for a few weeks using a Wismec Active (adding a 20mg nic salt to 50mg liquid) and I enjoy it but struggling to stop smoking. (my plan was to gradually cut down and use vaping as an aid) and I just have a couple of questions.

Is it right that adding a 20mg nic salt to 50 ml liquid equates to around 3mg nicotine? I have been told it is way too low and need around 18mg when first stopping smoking to be satisfied.. Is there a way to get to 18 mg without buying pre mixed liquids?

I have been told that mtl vaping is a lot better for stopping smoking, is that true?

Also what is the best mod and tank for mtl vaping (UK) if money isn't an issue?

Thanks in advance, Sam.

Welcome Sam.
Yes when quoting it is definitely best to start at the higher end of the nic scale 12, 18 or 20mg nic salt. You may only need 3 or 6mg but many dont. I started on 36, lol.
The shortfill juice that uses a single 18/20mg 10 ml shot to make 3mg juice is usually used in big tanks for dtl vaping.
(By the way, the difference between normal nic and nic salt is nic salt hits the blood stream faster, rather like a cigarette. I prefer normal nic myself)
Well you can buy some very flashy gear currently but actually we're pretty united that one of the best options for mtl stock coil vaping is the innokin adept/zlide kit.
It's a water/shockproof mod that's simple to use with the best mtl stock coil tank currently available included. (You'll find a little review I did in the review section under "mods").
It's available in the UK under £40 all in.
Check out our mtl section bellow.
What flavours of juice do you enjoy.

 

[AJT]

Hello and welcome..
For ME after lots of experimenting and trying loads of tanks and kit my personal favourite tank is the
Innokin Zenith tank with the 1.6ohm coil excellent mtl vape along with any decent mod really I only need 11-12 watts for my perfect vape so any mod with a decent battery life that I can recharge currently using a eleaf ikuu i200 that has a nice 4600mah battery...lasts me a few days vaping all day between charges.

 

[eyeball kid]

Welcome Sam.
Yes when quoting it is definitely best to start at the higher end of the nic scale 12, 18 or 20mg nic salt. You may only need 3 or 6mg but many dont. I started on 36, lol.
The shortfill juice that uses a single 18/20mg 10 ml shot to make 3mg juice is usually used in big tanks for dtl vaping.
(By the way, the difference between normal nic and nic salt is nic salt hits the blood stream faster, rather like a cigarette. I prefer normal nic myself)
Well you can buy some very flashy gear currently but actually we're pretty united that one of the best options for mtl stock coil vaping is the innokin adept/zlide kit.
It's a water/shockproof mod that's simple to use with the best mtl stock coil tank currently available included. (You'll find a little review I did in the review section under "mods").
It's available in the UK under £40 all in.
Check out our mtl section bellow.
What flavours of juice do you enjoy.

Reading my post seems like an advert for the adept, lol. But it is one of the best currently if mtl is your style.
Again check out the mtl section for tips. I'm sure others will offer options and see what most recommend.

 

[eyeball kid]

Hello and welcome..
For ME after lots of experimenting and trying loads of tanks and kit my personal favourite tank is the
Innokin Zenith tank with the 1.6ohm coil excellent mtl vape along with any decent mod really I only need 11-12 watts for my perfect vape so any mod with a decent battery life that I can recharge currently using a eleaf ikuu i200 that has a nice 4600mah battery...lasts me a few days vaping all day between charges.

Just to confuse matters more, the zenith the top gent ajt mentions above is a variation on the zlide tank I mentioned. Pretty much the same except a few design details.

 

[AJT]

Just to confuse matters more, the zenith the top gent ajt mentions above is a variation on the zlide tank I mentioned. Pretty much the same except a few design details.

Yep both the zlide and zenith are most excellent mtl tanks using the same coils..so you could get both...I have..well I have every variation of the zenith..I’m zenith mad.

 

[samcc]

Welcome Sam.
Yes when quoting it is definitely best to start at the higher end of the nic scale 12, 18 or 20mg nic salt. You may only need 3 or 6mg but many dont. I started on 36, lol.
The shortfill juice that uses a single 18/20mg 10 ml shot to make 3mg juice is usually used in big tanks for dtl vaping.
(By the way, the difference between normal nic and nic salt is nic salt hits the blood stream faster, rather like a cigarette. I prefer normal nic myself)
Well you can buy some very flashy gear currently but actually we're pretty united that one of the best options for mtl stock coil vaping is the innokin adept/zlide kit.
It's a water/shockproof mod that's simple to use with the best mtl stock coil tank currently available included. (You'll find a little review I did in the review section under "mods").
It's available in the UK under £40 all in.
Check out our mtl section bellow.
What flavours of juice do you enjoy.

I have been using 3mg (adding 20mg nic salt to 50ml bottle) and it isn't enough, still smoking nearly as many cigarettes as before. That is what I am doing at the moment (dtl) and I enjoy it more than the mtl ones I have tried but that is only a couple of goes here and there and I am wanting to give it a proper go.
Yeh, the reason I got nic salt is I hear it is smoother and the one I am using at the moment I can't tell it's even in. Does it mask the taste of the liquid at all? I'm curious.
That sounds good I'll look into it, I work outside and that's what drew me to the wismec active (hard wearing).

I have only tried two.. a honey type one and doozy vape bubbly.. I preferred the honey one it was a lot or me flavourful, the bubbly tastes almost watered down (is that the nic salt?) and I have tried friends tobacco flavour ones (the ones that mimic benson and hedges, embassy etc) and I'm not a huge fan of them.