rethinking flavour

[MHL]

that's either just semantics or they are just using 'sweetener' to mean 'sucralose'

..how do you make a flavour like Marshmallow without putting sweet tasting artificial compounds in it? ... and what are they if they aren't 'artifical sweeteners' ?

I think it's all bollocks, to be honest.

^^ I'm with this guy. All the flavours are artifical anyway (....aren't they....?!?!). So anything that gives you a sweet flavour is by definition an artifical sweetener. It's not like my toffee vape has any toffee in it.

Isn't avoiding sweeteners like making a dessert with chocolate, marshmallow, toffee and biscuits, and then feeling pleased with yourself because you didn't add any sugar?

 

[Mr Ripple]

They are sweet because they have sweetener in, what do you think makes a caramel flavour taste sweet? ... sweeteners.

If you use 4 or 5 sweet flavourings in a recipe then there's a ton of sweeteners in the liquid. ... probably more or as much using 4 or 5 non-sweet flavours and then adding 0.5% of separate sweeteners. There's no difference.

I think you are just fooling yourself that it's something different.

What is they?

 

[andipandi]

Why all the fuss about sweeteners? Is it some sort of pissing contest, who can make a blend without using the stuff? A juice unpalatable by being too sweet, or not sweet enough, is merely that - unpalatable. Do what you need to do, to make that juice tasty, end of.

 

[Mr Ripple]

Why all the fuss about sweeteners? Is it some sort of pissing contest, who can make a blend without using the stuff? A juice unpalatable by being too sweet, or not sweet enough, is merely that - unpalatable. Do what you need to do, to make that juice tasty, end of.

Read into it what you will!
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[Simon G]

What is they?

your recipes bud.

Those CCW that you use have loads of sweetener in I think. ...... more than I would ever use in a mix.

 

[ZT]

Yes and isn't this where the whole mixing problem/experience/skill set lays?
Flavours don't need to be sweet as such just true to form.
If i found a flavour like chocolate for instance that was described as milly/creamy/dark/indulgent with the right amount of sweetness I'd probably cream my pants if i was looking for just that but who wants to vape just that?

I hear what you are saying - what I’m saying is a lot of the time the extra sweetener people are putting in - I don’t think it’s needed.

a lot of the vape community have been trained to lime things over sweet ( I put it down to the explosion of high VG US and Malaysian style juices a few years ago )

 

[Simon G]

Why all the fuss about sweeteners? Is it some sort of pissing contest, who can make a blend without using the stuff? A juice unpalatable by being too sweet, or not sweet enough, is merely that - unpalatable. Do what you need to do, to make that juice tasty, end of.

nope, it needs to use half a percent of flavouring and be dry as a nun's chuff.

 

[ZT]

You've edited and i agree with the edit and wish i had the same amount of sway.

It’s not sway - they will do it for anyone

mid you want to buy 5ltrs of a given concentrate ... that’s the trade off

I have a black pepper flavouring I use at exactly 1% in a liquid 3ltrs of which is about to go out of date.

 

[andipandi]

Read into it what you will!
If you're upset with the line of conversation opt out.

Why would I be upset? Nothing to be upset about.

 

[ZT]

They are sweet because they have sweetener in, what do you think makes a caramel flavour taste sweet? ... sweeteners.

If you use 4 or 5 sweet flavourings in a recipe then there's a ton of sweeteners in the liquid. ... probably more or as much using 4 or 5 non-sweet flavours and then adding 0.5% of separate sweeteners. There's no difference.

I think you are just fooling yourself that it's something different.

This is exactly right

the thing is most flavourings do contain sweeteners - even ones you wouldn’t think would.