Shortfill 50ml 70/30 - Does anyone thin them for MTL?

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

I've tried some of the Manabush 30ml's with a PG nic shot which worked well but I have always dismissed 'normal' 50ml/100ml shortfills to make MTL eliquid for some reason.

I bought some Drip Drop 50ml's last week and this one seemed the better candidate to try as the flavour was pretty strong to start with.

I did the maths earlier and I think I got it close:
50ml shortfill 70VG/30PG
25ml 18mg PG Nicotine (2.5 shots)
= 75ml 6mg at 36VG/64PG as near as damn it.

It's pretty thin due to all PG nic shots so next time I will juggle the PG & VG nic shots but for this experiment I'm chasing the flavour and I don't find PG too harsh, but if the flavour is still strong I can add some VG to it.

I'm going to let it steep a bit but it shouldn't take too long with PG.

For those lucky people living outside TPD range and use 72mg PG Nic salts instead then you could make:
50ml shortfill 70VG/30PG
20ml 72mg PG Nic Salt
= 70ml 20mg 42VG/58PG

Still pretty thin but if the flavour is strong enough you could add some VG

Has anyone else had much success with shortfills for MTL, I know there's a few firms that make specific 'MTL Shortfills' but I'm wondering if the better value 50/100ml's will work out, any tips?

 

[Tobytyke]

I buy shortfills and use them for MTL exclusively. If I buy 50ml I just add 10ml of my own NIC to achieve my preferred 12mg ( or near as damn it) I’ve got both PG and VG Nic in the freezer to use accordingly, depending on the ratio of said shortfills.

Usually, the majority are 70/30, so I put 10ml of my PG nic in to roughly get 60/40 mix @ 12mg. Works for me, so that’s what I tend to do now. I’ve also done it with Manabush & Primevapes 30ml shortfills. Less nic required, but top up with PG or VG as required to achieve your desired ratio.

 

[Crispycritters]

There are a few 50 and 100mg shortfills in 50/50. I like some of the juices in the Malaysian Frooti Tooti range but haven't seen much of it in the last few years - I spotted some in one of the vape shops in Plymouth and was going to buy a few but noticed they were 50/50 so passed on it

I'm not sure if a 50/50 shortfill will have the concentration of flavour as regular MTL juice, but I have substituted a 10ml Nic salt juice instead of an extra nic shot to a same flavour shortfill for a 6mg (ish) RDL vape - that was good to increase the nic without diluting the flavour. I suppose you could try adding a 10ml MTL juice to 25ml from a shortfill which could boost the flavour a little more but I haven't actually tried it so I don't know how it would compare to regular MTL juice..

 

[Tobytyke]

Also, it seems expensive (to me) buying 10ml bottles all the time. Buying shortfills just seems much better value.

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

Is that freebase nic or salt?

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

I have tested the Honeydew Lemonade after 30 minute steep and it's already good to go, not too harsh on the throat with this PG ratio, no more 10ml's for me.

 

[Netvaper]

For a 50ml shortfill (50/50) I just add a 10ml 18mg nic shot so it's 3mg, not too bothered if it's PG or VG.

 

[Vapaneezer Scrooge]

VG shots will make it too thick for most coils and pods, I only ever use 3mg for DL vaping.

 

[Crispycritters]

Also, it seems expensive (to me) buying 10ml bottles all the time. Buying shortfills just seems much better value.

I think it strictly depends on how much you vape, £4 or £5 for a good quality 10ml MTL juice does seem steep, but lots of places do 3 for £10/£12.

I don't vape large amounts compared to many here, but if I vape DL 3mg only I get through about 70 - 80ml in a week, if I vape only MTL 20mg maybe 20 - 25 max so it works out about the same for me.

 

[rew]

I buy shortfills and use them for MTL exclusively. If I buy 50ml I just add 10ml of my own NIC to achieve my preferred 12mg ( or near as damn it) I’ve got both PG and VG Nic in the freezer to use accordingly, depending on the ratio of said shortfills.

Usually, the majority are 70/30, so I put 10ml of my PG nic in to roughly get 60/40 mix @ 12mg. Works for me, so that’s what I tend to do now. I’ve also done it with Manabush & Primevapes 30ml shortfills. Less nic required, but top up with PG or VG as required to achieve your desired ratio.

I do the same.