should we be worried about uk vaping?

[Mawsley]

Do we think the TPD might have saved us from a lot of the shit the Americans are having to deal with?

Yes. It's the one thing they should have done.

 

[Mawsley]

In addition, shortfills were due to be legislated "before September" according to the politicians I spoke to almost a year ago. Mandatory testing and certification was on the cards, in line with nicotine-containing juices.

Clearly Brexit has buggered all normal business in the house for far longer than anyone thought possible so it hasn't made it to the floor. This will be coming and IMO is long overdue. I have a real problem with all the shortfills flooding the market from the Far East, I don't trust them one bit.

TPD3 or no, the "Shake & Vape" market as we know it is on borrowed time.

 

[Banjostring]

Welcome Voke. You may have loved to hate it in 2014 because it's a glorified pointless tube that looks like a cigalike, but now you can love to hate it all over again as it's still a glorified pointless tube that looks like a cigalike - but now it is going on sale as an MHRA-approved prescribable smoking cessation device.

So what?

So this. To the average person it looks like a cigalike...but it can be used like a prescribed medicine.

So what?

So this also. It can be used on the train, at the match, in the venue. You average door person hasn't got a blind clue as to the differences between devices. Stealth vaping has become de facto legal (it hasn't, but) and do-able for anybody who cares to take a toke. Upon being approached, "But I am prescribed this by my doctor, you can't stop me" is the order of the day.

Voke is being launched next month

I shall be 'voking' on train station platforms up and down the country, while enjoying seeing LCFC lift the Premier League trophy again this season and at every gig I attend.

Luckily my team gave you a free ride last night to the next round of the EFL Cup.

 

[Deleted member 58360]

In addition, shortfills were due to be legislated "before September" according to the politicians I spoke to almost a year ago. Mandatory testing and certification was on the cards, in line with nicotine-containing juices.

Clearly Brexit has buggered all normal business in the house for far longer than anyone thought possible so it hasn't made it to the floor. This will be coming and IMO is long overdue. I have a real problem with all the shortfills flooding the market from the Far East, I don't trust them one bit.

TPD3 or no, the "Shake & Vape" market as we know it is on borrowed time.

To be honest I think that's something that's overdue.

And from a particularly personal perspective, as long as reasonably priced nic shots (aka max legal strength unflavoured juice) are still available it's not going to affect me

(And another and - I know I can get 72mg nic, but as it's illegal to sell to private individuals I have an innate mistrust of companies who are willing to sell it illegally to private individuals... If they'll flippantly break that law what reason is there to think they're overly concerned about what they're selling?)

 

[Simon G]

TPD3 or no, the "Shake & Vape" market as we know it is on borrowed time.

Yeah I think so too.... it's just a loophole that was always going to close at some point.

Do you think it will end short-fill bottles completely or just force them to be tested?

 

[Mawsley]

Yeah I think so too.... it's just a loophole that was always going to close at some point.

Do you think it will end short-fill bottles completely or just force them to be tested?

The talk was of testing, but months have gone by since then. The 10ml bottles were imposed by the TPD, this was to be a British move. There's no way you could have 10ml shortfills

 

[Mr Ripple]

(And another and - I know I can get 72mg nic, but as it's illegal to sell to private individuals I have an innate mistrust of companies who are willing to sell it illegally to private individuals... If they'll flippantly break that law what reason is there to think they're overly concerned about what they're selling?)

This has gone round in my head enough times for me to realise theres just no point in sellers making any exceptions.
They have a product to sell and theres somebody that wants to buy it. Simple!