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So, who voted what?

I know what you mean how the hell did he get put in charge of a political party honestly i just dont know

Thats the whole problem with labore at the moment...career politicians, from north london, middle class& no real grasp of 'real life'

Labour needs to reclaim its party, and quickly....

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Thats the whole problem with labore at the moment...career politicians, from north london, middle class& no real grasp of 'real life'

Labour needs to reclaim its party, and quickly....

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correct they need to start helping the working man again like they are supposed to - I just noticed you're from sale by the way I used to live in stockport and some of my cousins live over your way
 
correct they need to start helping the working man again like they are supposed to - I just noticed you're from sale by the way I used to live in stockport and some of my cousins live over your way

Cool.....although im from east london originally ;)

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No worries bud you wouldn't know em anyway unless you're into rugby

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A Lib-Dem going back on his word?

I've never heard the like before. Ever.

I wonder if he'll have a Youtube video of him saying sorry too?
 
Derek Clerk (UKIP East Midlands) had this to say about the vote. (I'm still trying to find out how he voted)

Then came the McAvan vote on the Tobacco Directive. In voting sessions it has become very noticeable that the lists have been arranged so that reports with a lot of “RCV” votes are being located at the end of the vote session. An RCV is a vote made electronically and recorded, so that those who wish to see how we voted can do so. No problem, even when we get people asking why we voted a certain way, like the email I received last week. People keep an eye on things, quite right too.

But an RCV has another function. As well as signing in every day record is kept of one’s RCV votes. If an MEP fails to record half of the RCVs in any one day, and that happens for half the days over a period of time, we can be required to repay the money received under,” General Expenditure Allowance”. This is the funding for the office in the UK and all that goes with it; rent, ‘phone bill, purchase of computer, supplies, newspapers, periodicals and so on. A tidy sum.

It is not uncommon to see MEPs counting up the RCVs as we go along and leaving the chamber when the 50% has been reached. I don’t do that normally, not least because our assistants have spent hours over the paper work to advise us of our vote and I do not like to see that wasted. Their work is discussed in a voting meeting of the assistants and MEPs immediately prior to the voting session. Gerard, as our whip, will have spent at least a half hour before that with the assistants knocking it into shape. (Or, me when Gerard has not been present, a rarity).

Hence the comments above and the new-style placement of reports with lots of RCVs.

So, imagine our surprise when it went wrong on Wednesday. This was in the vote on the McAvan report. This has already been aired in a previous plenary session and it was up today for final vote. Our Vote list had only 3 votes,- 1, The text as a whole, 2 to adopt the Commission proposal and 3 to authorise legislation. Suddenly, as the vote was to start we were informed of a change. The committee responsible had earlier asked to submit the text to vote in several different amendments but this had been refused, all in one was ruled, votes as per above. Now, in the last hour before voting, an email had been circulated giving permission for the Text to be in several votes after all. But we did not have that information, de-valuing our votes. Remember, this has been the subject of acrimonious emails between MEPs and the vociferous smoking lobby over a period of time.

I do not believe our assistants were to blame. As noted above they were all busy with either Gerard, or all of us, in the vote meetings for at least the hour when the president’s email was sent out. In any case, in a previous voting session this month a rapporteur was furious that his request to speak before the final vote was taken. He had emailed the president’s office with the request before-hand but the president for that vote session had not received it, so the vote went ahead, ignoring the rapporteur’s wishes.

Can you believe that the outcome of important votes are subject to last minute emails, which require someone to be watching a computer all the time!

You should not be. Remember my video of a few weeks ago when I complained about the lack of transparency in the budget report which authorises the spending of billions of taxpayers money? Now we have fudged votes, the outcome of which will affect a great number of companies and traders. But don’t worry, “Its how we do things here”!

Our next group of MEPs will take up the fight I’m sure but, in the meanwhile, what about you? You are all dedicated to UKIP’s fight to get us out of this undemocratic mess but the great British public needs information, hence my commentaries. These are not confidential nor are they subject to copyright: they are ammunition. Use them in the pub, in letters to the papers, in chatting to your pals, but use them. Just get the facts right as written, that’s all.

And good luck

Derek Clark MEP Strasbourg 26th Feb 2014
 
Comes to something when even the mep's are informing us that the voting can be "meddled with"by devious cows like mcavan. Hope she rots in hell

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So, who needs to know Derek Clark's concerns then to file that under the maladministration claim already put forward? I will forward it to Clive Bates and see what he says
 
Clives response back:

Dear Leigh

I think it will be hard to undo anything now... and UKIP haven't always been on the ball on voting (eg. on Oct 8th). I think we should keep this on file in case useful in legal action...


The Ombudsman has declared that anything involving the political work of the European Parliament is out of scope... pathetic really.


Clive
 
Clives response back:

there must be an ombudsman or some kind of regularity which the eu have to follow which they clearly haven't on article 18 so maybe they dont have rules - jeezo is it nuts that im still really pissed off about this two days later
 
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