The Deception Of Measuring Formaldehyde In E-Cigarette Aerosol

[schlinky]

It was probably the most important point he raised in that interview with P Bursado.

http://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/f...-news/57564-interview-with-dr-farsalinos.html

 

[Gonloopy]

This is really worth a read on the subject. Excellent take down, if you get a chance,- read it.

Formaldehyde Strikes Again | Fergus OnlineFergus Online

 

[Gonloopy]

But the shit storm is around the corner. Here's the original study on the front page of the New England Journal of Medicine.

Groans and waits for the tabloids to pick it up..

 

[Diche]

But the shit storm is around the corner. Here's the original study on the front page of the New England Journal of Medicine.

Groans and waits for the tabloids to pick it up..

Could go either way on this one at the moment, Reuters, Fox News, the New York Times and a couple of others have picked up on the issues with the study. This might backfire on the writers of the letter yet. We can hope.

 

[lndiscalling]

Ffs aren't these people supposed to be experts in their field!!!

Ego CE4 pass through battery....

 

[the mutt]

Ffs aren't these people supposed to be experts in their field!!!

Ego CE4 pass through battery....

For the right amount of money they would probably be an expert in anything showing the fair and impartial results that you want to see the most, in an entirely fairly done experiment leaning towards your chosen outcome.

 

[maustin42]

I am new to this vaping lark and the associated political "shit storm" but I am absolutely astounded that so called scientists could so completely abandon their professional integrity to produce this complete and utter rubbish. I don't nomally post on things like this and must be completely nieve regarding the scientific world but I am flabbergasted (please excuse my spelling, hence why I don't normally post). This sort of misrepresentation can severely impact on people who are on the fence when it comes to kicking the smoking habit. I'm going to stop now before my rant gets out of hand.

 

[the mutt]

I am new to this vaping lark and the associated political "shit storm" but I am absolutely astounded that so called scientists could so completely abandon their professional integrity to produce this complete and utter rubbish. I don't nomally post on things like this and must be completely nieve regarding the scientific world but I am flabbergasted (please excuse my spelling, hence why I don't normally post). This sort of misrepresentation can severely impact on people who are on the fence when it comes to kicking the smoking habit. I'm going to stop now before my rant gets out of hand.

Rant away, if it hasn't been said by some of us it certainly has been thought.

Science like anything can be bought, as wrong as it may be, and you're right it will make more turn to being ANTZ and could stop some from actually giving up smoking, at some point there will be a penny drop and more will realise that while no one is saying we have chosen a healthy option, we have chosen a healthier option.

This is what I try and point out to people,

 

[knome]

I am new to this vaping lark and the associated political "shit storm" but I am absolutely astounded that so called scientists could so completely abandon their professional integrity to produce this complete and utter rubbish. I don't nomally post on things like this and must be completely nieve regarding the scientific world but I am flabbergasted (please excuse my spelling, hence why I don't normally post). This sort of misrepresentation can severely impact on people who are on the fence when it comes to kicking the smoking habit. I'm going to stop now before my rant gets out of hand.

Welcome to the world of vaping. Let your inner sceptic bloom as you realise you've been manipulated and lied to about many things for years.

 

[Diche]

I am new to this vaping lark and the associated political "shit storm" but I am absolutely astounded that so called scientists could so completely abandon their professional integrity to produce this complete and utter rubbish. I don't nomally post on things like this and must be completely nieve regarding the scientific world but I am flabbergasted (please excuse my spelling, hence why I don't normally post). This sort of misrepresentation can severely impact on people who are on the fence when it comes to kicking the smoking habit. I'm going to stop now before my rant gets out of hand.

I was much the same when I got into vaping. At first I thought the activists were exaggerating or being overly partisan or were in denial. However I started reading the scientific papers for myself and realised that if anything not enough noise was being made about the travesty that was taking place.

Studies designed to give certain results without regard for their applicability to the real world. Statistical analysis used to produce results that just aren't there. Media reports that cherrypick the data trying to tell a story that just isn't borne out by the studies they claim to be reporting on.

I am damned if I am going to stay quiet about it, so from doubting the activists I have become one myself.





P.S. Don't worry about your spelling most people on a forum like this just don't care. Its not like a formal environment where it can cause issues. Bring on the rants we need them because if we just stay quiet the other side wins.