The Deception Of Measuring Formaldehyde In E-Cigarette Aerosol

[maustin42]

I was much the same when I got into vaping. At first I thought the activists were exaggerating or being overly partisan or were in denial. However I started reading the scientific papers for myself and realised that if anything not enough noise was being made about the travesty that was taking place.

Studies designed to give certain results without regard for their applicability to the real world. Statistical analysis used to produce results that just aren't there. Media reports that cherrypick the data trying to tell a story that just isn't borne out by the studies they claim to be reporting on.

I am damned if I am going to stay quiet about it, so from doubting the activists I have become one myself.

P.S. Don't worry about your spelling most people on a forum like this just don't care. Its not like a formal environment where it can cause issues. Bring on the rants we need them because if we just stay quiet the other side wins.

I have been absolutely amazed at how easy, so far, it has been to give up the fags by using vaping. I have given up smoking several times and each time had been a living nightmare. Then something happens in real life and I go back to smoking. This time feels completely different and I can reduce the nicotine slowly in my own time. If something goes wrong on real life now I still have the vaping and if worse comes to worse I can increase the nicotine for a bit! Still, no going back to the smokes.

If I didn't try vaping because of these self-interest articles based on so called scientific evidence (which as a lay person I trust are at least based on realistic testing) I would no doubt still be smoking and would, in time, have become one of the NHS's smoking related mortality statistics. It seems to me to be criminal that this kind of thing can go on, influencing people with completely inaccurate drivel.

I have never been one for activism but this does make my blood boil. I don't think the other side wins if I keep quiet and to be honest I don't want the uptake of vaping to become too big because otherwise the government will start taxing it like they do smoking and a 10ml bottle of juice will cost £15 or more (77% of the cost of a packet of cigarettes is tax)!

 

[Diche]

I have been absolutely amazed at how easy, so far, it has been to give up the fags by using vaping. I have given up smoking several times and each time had been a living nightmare. Then something happens in real life and I go back to smoking. This time feels completely different and I can reduce the nicotine slowly in my own time. If something goes wrong on real life now I still have the vaping and if worse comes to worse I can increase the nicotine for a bit! Still, no going back to the smokes.

If I didn't try vaping because of these self-interest articles based on so called scientific evidence (which as a lay person I trust are at least based on realistic testing) I would no doubt still be smoking and would, in time, have become one of the NHS's smoking related mortality statistics. It seems to me to be criminal that this kind of thing can go on, influencing people with completely inaccurate drivel.

I have never been one for activism but this does make my blood boil. I don't think the other side wins if I keep quiet and to be honest I don't want the uptake of vaping to become too big because otherwise the government will start taxing it like they do smoking and a 10ml bottle of juice will cost £15 or more (77% of the cost of a packet of cigarettes is tax)!

Next job is to learn to make your own then its not much more difficult than making a glass of squash, you just have to be a bit more accurate in your measurements with preblended concentrates it is a doddle.

 

[maustin42]

Next job is to learn to make your own then its not much more difficult than making a glass of squash, you just have to be a bit more accurate in your measurements with preblended concentrates it is a doddle.

Yes, already researching it as my taste buds are shot from 30 plus years smoking. Can't taste many of the juices. So mixing my own will let me increase the flavour in them.

 

[carl cipriano]

It's all about money folks.....

Dr Farsalino response to the latest formaldehyde study.

This is a very good article...it continues to amaze me at how easily ppl accept propoganda...which, of course, is why it works so well! I am continually approached by ppl who say to me, sometimes while smoking a cigarette, "You know, it's been proven that that thing you'rew smoking with is nuch nmore dangerous than tobacco. Did you know that?" To which I generally reply "Vaping has become a 1.7 BILLION dollar a year industry within the last five years....OF COURSE the government is going to sponsor anti-vaping propoganda, at least until they succeed in gaining control of the industry and taxing it to hell and making a profit off of it themselves...I guarantee that 2 or 3 years from now, you will see all sorts of propoganda touting the over-all health benefits of vaping vs. smoking, once the government has their hands in the pie! Besides, the same government that supposedly is SO concerned for your health, that they are spending millions of dollors sponsoring bullshit studies to show that vaping is bad for you, that is the SAME government that has known for 50 plus years that cigarettes cause CANCER, yet still they are selling them to you!"......I generaklly get a blank stare in return and then "Ya, but I read that vaping is really more dangerous...." and off they walk, like the propoganda eating robotic machine thaT THEY ARE.......