The new normal // documentary

[Crewella]

Science all the way. Critical thinking and education. And wear a fucking mask.

What I dislike is the use of conspiracy theory / ist as a derogatory term or a form of dismissal. It's an easy slur. Most people will agree with you. But I think we should be encouraging people to question authority.

Yes, those examples have evidence, and it proves that certain elements of governments are capable of doing that kind of thing. So perhaps some conspiracy thories are not SO far fetched, and shouldn't be SO easily dismissed? (I'm not talking lizard people here).

Plus a lot of shit will go down where nobody has managed to put together evidence. (Just like loads of crimes get commited every day that are not reported / detected / solved).

What I'm saying is, even if you disagree and have proof that a theory is false / stupid, we perhaps shouldn't be so eager to criticise people who have not yet reached that conclusion.

Agreed. And many people will choose to believe things according to their upbringing and life experience. It's not easy for people with a different upbringing and life experience to understand why they believe what they do.

The funny thing about 'critical thinking' is that many conspiracy theorists are using exactly that ......... just in a different way and with a different target?

 

[oldhippydude]

Making the case that covid restrictions are more damaging to society than the virus- not bat shit crazy
Making the case that fit healthy people should not be restricted to protect the vulnerable- not bat shit crazy
Being a bit wary of vaccines that have been devloped at speed- not bat shit crazy

If anybody want to make any of the above cases and accepts that more people will die then I would not call them bat shit crazy.
I was content to go down the Sweden route but that thought freaked out the bulk of the population, so the government backed of that idea pretty sharpish. The Swedes gave it a good go before they freaked out about the level of death in the past few months.

To have fewer restrictions, put more resources into shielding the vulnerable and accept more death is a valid choice, but it did not have support in the past nor does it have mass support now but it is not bat shit crazy.

If folk want to add into the mix unsubstantiated global elite conspiricies, 5g, microchiped vaccines etc then I reserve the right to label these things bat shit crazy.

 

[Mr Ripple]

Slightly off topic but this has been bugging me for a while so i googled Smallcock touching elbows.
I mean how close do you have to get to someone to touch elbows?
Surely it's less than two metres?

Then i came accross this.....

 

[zouzounaki]

Just in general.... to blindly believe the narrative from governments and mainstream media is not on for me...... the third tower was not hit by anything, if I mind right the Gov narrative was that it went on fire.... and just collapsed like a demo job because of fire....aye right.
That's just me though.... thinking... I realised others maybe don't which is fine by me.

i don’t think either of us are blindly following anything, to be fair. it does seem unlikely a fire made it collapse, but i’m no an engineer. you need to remember a giant building had just no long collapsed pretty much right next to it. i dunno, but it seems even less likely to me that somebody was able to sneak in and rig it up for a demolition without anybody noticing, and nobody spilling the beans for 20 years. have you seen a high rise ready to get demolished? it’s not something a couple of guys could have sneaked in and done the night before and the people that were in the building working would have noticed it.

 

[ZT]

I don't hold grudges mate, although it's hard when your being called a Flat Earther, Conspiracy Theorist or a Moron because you don't have the same faith in Governments, Big Pharma or SAGE, as people, who under normal circumstances, would question every decision made and every statistic published by them !!! Nuff Said, Hazza has left the building !!! (Mic drop)

You misunderstand I think - I don’t categorise you in those categories. I can tell the difference between someone who doesn’t agree with lockdowns and an actual conspiracy theorist.

I have my reasons for being so vehement about it.

If there was no virus - id be out protesting myself.
These are very much not normal times.

 

[Rickster]

i don’t think either of us are blindly following anything, to be fair. it does seem unlikely a fire made it collapse, but i’m no an engineer. you need to remember a giant building had just no long collapsed pretty much right next to it. i dunno, but it seems even less likely to me that somebody was able to sneak in and rig it up for a demolition without anybody noticing, and nobody spilling the beans for 20 years. have you seen a high rise ready to get demolished? it’s not something a couple of guys could have sneaked in and done the night before and the people that were in the building working would have noticed it.

Other buildings round about the twins didn't collapse in that manner...but anyhoo as I said it's good to question stuff.....

 

[ZT]

Science all the way. Critical thinking and education. And wear a fucking mask.

What I dislike is the use of conspiracy theory / ist as a derogatory term or a form of dismissal. It's an easy slur. Most people will agree with you. But I think we should be encouraging people to question authority.

Yes, those examples have evidence, and it proves that certain elements of governments are capable of doing that kind of thing. So perhaps some conspiracy thories are not SO far fetched, and shouldn't be SO easily dismissed? (I'm not talking lizard people here).

Plus a lot of shit will go down where nobody has managed to put together evidence. (Just like loads of crimes get commited every day that are not reported / detected / solved).

What I'm saying is, even if you disagree and have proof that a theory is false / stupid, we perhaps shouldn't be so eager to criticise people who have not yet reached that conclusion.

That depends on if those people are going g out and standing around in big crowds protesting without masks? And encouraging others to do so? That’s my objection.

 

[zouzounaki]

Other buildings round about the twins didn't collapse in that manner...but anyhoo as I said it's good to question stuff.....

that’s true, they didnae. but then they were different buildings, designed differently i’d imagine, or affected differently
by the giant building that fell on top of them.

fuck knows. maybe this cunt did it?

 

[Rickster]

You misunderstand I think - I don’t categorise you in those categories. I can tell the difference between someone who doesn’t agree with lockdowns and an actual conspiracy theorist.

I have my reasons for being so vehement about it.

If there was no virus - id be out protesting myself.
These are very much not normal times.

I don't think anyone...well at least on here is questioning the fact the virus is real n happening.......but the mantra following the science and experts is flawed...... it is only as good as the scientists advising and piss poor compared to say the Australian scientists.
Or is the Gov Ignoring our science advisers or is our advising scientists shit.

Edit: Are they human or are they dancers

 

[knome]

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Explain.
What does it mean?
People replying to Matt Hancock?
What did he say?
Do I just read the bit underlined in red?