(This is it) TPD Regulations 2016

[nikki from mars]

Briefly scanned that link (as that's all it deserves) and 2 immediate questions:

"The Commission poses the amount of e-liquid needed to produce an acutely toxic effect through dermal exposure in humans is 35 ml for a small child and 210 ml for a 60kg adult (larger than the maximum size of a refill container allowed under the TPD)."

35ml/210ml of what nicotine strength?? that'd make a big difference

"277 cases of nicotine poisoning were identified being reported to poison centres in eight EU Member States (Austria, Hungary, Ireland, Lithuania, Netherlands, Portugal, Sweden and Slovenia) from January 2012 to March 2015:

• 33.2% of cases related to children aged five or under"

That's 92 poisonings! I wonder how the media missed such an epidemic? doesn't sound right somehow

And... "Regarding outcome, 23.7% of cases required hospitalisation and 6.8% had a moderate or major effect." So what I want to know is how come 23.7% of cases supposedly required hospitalisation and yet only 6.8% had even a moderate/major effect on the persons poisoned... that just is utter bollocks
Also we know that more children than this are poisoned every year by household products with no restrictions on them.. and more children are poisoned by eating cigarettes.. than by ingesting eliquid... because most people treat eliquid with more respect

 

[MrDJ]

UPDATE

Great Progress In Parliament

45,142 SO FAR SIGNED

https://www.change.org/p/7103561/u/...tm_medium=facebook&utm_source=petition_update

 

[rilot]

Got this crap back from Theresa May

Dear Mr Riley,


Thank you for your email to Theresa May regarding e-cigarettes. I am sure she will appreciate your concerns.


We have been in touch with the Department of Health about this. The Government recognises that e-cigarettes help some smokers to quit and the evidence indicates that they are considerably less harmful to health than cigarettes.


The rules set out in the revised Tobacco Products Directive (TPD), published in April 2014, apply in the UK from 20th May 2016 and cover tobacco and smokeless tobacco products, herbal products and will, for the first time, regulate e-cigarettes. The Government has consulted on how to implement this.

Although e-cigarettes are helpful to some people wishing to quit smoking, the quality of products on the market remains highly variable. It is therefore important that proportionate regulation is introduced to ensure minimum safety requirements and that information is provided to consumers so that they can make informed choices. This is the aim of the regulatory framework set out in the TPD.

In implementing the new EU rules, the Government intends to work towards regulation that will permit a range of products to remain on the market which are positioned as alternatives to smoking, not as products that introduce children to vaping or smoking. E-cigarettes that are licenced by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency will still be able to be advertised, and the advertising of all other e-cigarettes will no longer permitted on television.

I hope this reassures you that the new rules in the revised TPD do not aim to prevent people from using e-cigarettes, but rather to provide consumers with safer, less variable products.


Thank you again for writing.


Best wishes,


David Beckingham

Office of The Rt Hon Theresa May MP

 

[gabianovape87]

TPD is alive. Feeling the burn yet? The no discounts thing has kicked in..

Bernie or bust

 

[SirLugg]

Got this crap back from Theresa May

Dear Mr Riley,


Thank you for your email to Theresa May regarding e-cigarettes. I am sure she will appreciate your concerns.


We have been in touch with the Department of Health about this. The Government recognises that e-cigarettes help some smokers to quit and the evidence indicates that they are considerably less harmful to health than cigarettes.


The rules set out in the revised Tobacco Products Directive (TPD), published in April 2014, apply in the UK from 20th May 2016 and cover tobacco and smokeless tobacco products, herbal products and will, for the first time, regulate e-cigarettes. The Government has consulted on how to implement this.

Although e-cigarettes are helpful to some people wishing to quit smoking, the quality of products on the market remains highly variable. It is therefore important that proportionate regulation is introduced to ensure minimum safety requirements and that information is provided to consumers so that they can make informed choices. This is the aim of the regulatory framework set out in the TPD.

In implementing the new EU rules, the Government intends to work towards regulation that will permit a range of products to remain on the market which are positioned as alternatives to smoking, not as products that introduce children to vaping or smoking. E-cigarettes that are licenced by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency will still be able to be advertised, and the advertising of all other e-cigarettes will no longer permitted on television.

I hope this reassures you that the new rules in the revised TPD do not aim to prevent people from using e-cigarettes, but rather to provide consumers with safer, less variable products.


Thank you again for writing.


Best wishes,


David Beckingham

Office of The Rt Hon Theresa May MP

That's the standard copy and paste reply that they're posting out bud.

 

[MrDJ]

at least youve had a reply. naff all from Barry Gardiner MP (oh look, i can copy/paste as well).

as said thats the usual copy/paste bollox

 

[SirLugg]

at least youve had a reply. naff all from Barry Gardiner MP (oh look, i can copy/paste as well).

as said thats the usual copy/paste bollox

He's sunbathing. He'll reply shortly I'm sure [emoji16]

 

[rilot]

You'd think that they would have the common courtesy to at least answer my questions.

So much for our MPs working for us. I've so lost faith in our governments over all this shite.

 

[SirLugg]

You'd think that they would have the common courtesy to at least answer my questions.

So much for our MPs working for us. I've so lost faith in our governments over all this shite.

The House of Commons is not doing what it says on the tin. At all.
They're so out of touch with their people and being ushered by European bigots that they don't know what they're meant to be doing.

 

[MrTeaTime]

and there was me thinking that "the thick of it" was pure fiction.......