About to give up DIY, save me!

[chodd]

I'm both hoping it is and it isn't the nic. I've overspent already this month lol but on the positive I can order another nic and be done with the horrible juice batches

I have a slightly modified version of this recipe already made and it tastes nothing like the elements pink lemonade but it's still ok if you want a sample for comparison to see if it's your nic pm me your address and will pop some in the post

 

[bmkvaper]

It's not your nic unless it's actually gone bad.

Taste is subjective and we may both love a juice but we may be tasting something completely different. You may not taste cinnamon but I might, and if I overdo it in my clone it will taste odd to you.

Snake Oil is a good example. Many gigabytes on the web are taken up discussing its ingredients, but I identified them straight away and made an identical clone. But no-one else thinks so, just me.

Why not try to come up with your own mixes rather than copying others? Imagine a flavour and try to create it. Settle for a stock juice in the meantime, Chef's has plenty of blends.

I agree with what you're saying but I'm just starting off with DIY so I thought I'd get the basics down and make a few bottles using recipes before experimenting with my own.

I also am not arguing that taste is subjective but as I mentioned above somewhere I can distinguish the difference between a taste I don't like and a taste that's clearly off. I've tried numerous flavours from vape stores some I like some I don't like, however I can still vape something I dislike whereas I can't for the life of me vape what I've created.

I have a slightly modified version of this recipe already made and it tastes nothing like the elements pink lemonade but it's still ok if you want a sample for comparison to see if it's your nic pm me your address and will pop some in the post

That'll be much appreciated, I can send you back a bottle of one of the DIY's I've made in return if you're feeling brave lol?

 

[Mr Numpty]

DIY is a real minefield. I've mixed custards to the exact recipes that people say is "the best custard ever!" and they have been unvapable after 1-3 months steeping and every disaster in between. Keep going though, I've only this past week made my first great juice to my own recipe after 8+ months of horror shows. Switching exclusively to FlavorArt concentrates helped a lot. Their shit is great. Using pre-mixed blends is also a good way of at least having something vapable to keep you going while you fuck up your own experiments. T-Juice have some nice ones.

 

[bmkvaper]

DIY is a real minefield. I've mixed custards to the exact recipes that people say is "the best custard ever!" and they have been unvapable after 1-3 months steeping and every disaster in between. Keep going though, I've only this past week made my first great juice to my own recipe after 8+ months of horror shows. Switching exclusively to FlavorArt concentrates helped a lot. Their shit is great. Using pre-mixed blends is also a good way of at least having something vapable to keep you going while you fuck up your own experiments. T-Juice have some nice ones.

Yeah I'm going to have to order some pre mix's, and possibly nic. I'll have a test tomorrow to see if it's actually my nic.

 

[SimonB2008]

You're not doing anything wrong - the truth of the matter is that most of the "clone" recipes are crap and taste nothing like the original juices.
There is a lot of trial and error in DIY and I find that if I make ten liquids, maybe 3 out of that 10 are worth making again and only 1 will be as good as something you'd class as premium.
But as @travolski said, sometimes the difference between a juice that smells great but tastes meh and a juice that smells and tastes great is one drop of sucralose per 10mls.

 

[tonystr]

For a premixed flavour you cant go too far wrong with pinkman at 15-20%. Nic tastes of nic ie. peppery. What disguises it are the flavours in the juice. Do check out nic from pirates vape (they do a 10 ml sample foc) this is reputed to be the best but i cud not tell much difference.

Comparing different nic unflavoured at 3 - 6mg side by side in the same set up. I bet you wont be able to tell the difference.

 

[travolski]

For a premixed flavour you cant go too far wrong with pinkman at 15-20%. Nic tastes of nic ie. peppery. What disguises it are the flavours in the juice. Do check out nic from pirates vape (they do a 10 ml sample foc) this is reputed to be the best but i cud not tell much difference.

Comparing different nic unflavoured at 3 - 6mg side by side in the same set up. I bet you wont be able to tell the difference.

I can vouch for darkstar nic my 2 liter are crystal clear and flavourless and no smell, was really impressed with it. First company i bought nic off had a yellow/orange tinge too it and slight smell

 

[Ment]

I can vouch for darkstar nic my 2 liter are crystal clear and flavourless and no smell, was really impressed with it. First company i bought nic off had a yellow/orange tinge too it and slight smell

This is generally considered normal. I found VG based nic had the tinge and smelt of smelly feet, but since I switched to PG based it's all been crystal clear.

 

[travolski]

This is generally considered normal. I found VG based nic had the tinge and smelt of smelly feet, but since I switched to PG based it's all been crystal clear.

My first batch was suposed to be pg too but maybe your right and they gave me vg base instead

 

[Unclebilbo]

I'll also vouch for darkstar on my second bottle from them and both crystal clear.
I had a bottle that went peppery not even red astaire would mask it, if you think it's bad bin it.