An alternative view on disposables and harm reduction

[Ryu]

I’m sorry, my bad. I was thinking more of none smokers, vaping 0 nic. What would be the point?
Anyway, all this fuss for a chemical that’s as poisonous (mg for mg) as caffeine. Vape juice is just as dangerous, without nic, as with. That’s if it turns out to be dangerous at all, that is.

Probably the flavour, I only started vaping because I wanted to limit the amount I smoked and save more money. I haven't smoked for over a week now as the ability to taste coke or watermelon all day is more appealing than a cigarette.

 

[andipandi]

For all of you subscribed to our newsletter, you will have tried an e-cigarette and you will know that vaping is a fantastic way of stopping smoking. It is even supported by the NHS and Cancer Research.

For 7 years we have been providing e-liquid at an affordable price. But with the price of plastic rocketing, concentrates and our base ingredients nearly double on last year, not to mention the cost in electric to run a huge warehouse and cleanrooms, we head into an uncertain year!
So 2023 may be our last year keeping you all off the stinkies.

We know we have saved countless lives over the past 7 years. And we still love our jobs!

We have put everything into making our E-Liquid as safe as we possibly can with our state of the art cleanrooms and fully automated bottling machines plus thousands of pounds towards TPD testing. But we are noticing a huge drop in sales as people are switching to the ease of a disposable, to which you will find the shocking details below.

But before that, and before the rumour mill starts, we have 1 year to save DripDrop. If we see no improvement by Dec 2023 we will be sadly saying goodbye to a much loved career in saving lives.

 

[RAPTOREX]

Probably the flavour, I only started vaping because I wanted to limit the amount I smoked and save more money. I haven't smoked for over a week now as the ability to taste coke or watermelon all day is more appealing than a cigarette.

Disposables are no my favourite thing. But, if they keep you off stinkies, they can’t be all bad. However, I’d say, just give up stinkies, and move 100% to vaping.

one of the main things I found out is, the actual act of smoking is as much an addiction as the nicotine itself. In fact I’d go as far as to say, it's a bigger problem than nicotine in the fight to give up.

The U.K. is for vaping as a way to give up stinkies. But these disposables will be the route by which all vaping is killed off, by the tobacco lobby.

As a vaper myself, I'm honestly sick of tripping over discarded disposables, left like fag butts in the road, and the pavement. Each one that gets crushed by a car, or foot, releases the contents of the battery. That then gets flushed into our water system, and eventually into the sea. That means it gets into our houses and onto carpets, too.
Now if a committed vaper can draw that line, anybody else can.

 

[andipandi]

Now if a committed vaper can draw that line, anybody else can.

The fact that you are a committed vaper is the reason why you can, most people who use disposables probably arent anywhere near being committed to vaping. They're also far more likely to be dual users, which in itself is fine, I was one for the first 2 1/2 years of my vaping.

 

[RAPTOREX]

The fact that you are a committed vaper is the reason why you can, most people who use disposables probably arent anywhere near being committed to vaping. They're also far more likely to be dual users, which in itself is fine, I was one for the first 2 1/2 years of my vaping.

Ture. However I was thinking more of those in the anti vaping lobby.
However much good they may do. You have to admit they are making legislators think again, about vaping, in the U.K. that’s not good, not good at all.
Truth is, the gen public get their info from Murdoch comics and social media. Both can’t wait to publish or post anything they can throw at the i duster.

they are now making a big thing about these being insidious Chinese tech bent on destroying the west. Once the conservatives, and Starmers Labour, smell a racist trope, they’ll run with it full tilt,

 

[Ryu]

Disposables are no my favourite thing. But, if they keep you off stinkies, they can’t be all bad. However, I’d say, just give up stinkies, and move 100% to vaping.

one of the main things I found out is, the actual act of smoking is as much an addiction as the nicotine itself. In fact I’d go as far as to say, it's a bigger problem than nicotine in the fight to give up.

The U.K. is for vaping as a way to give up stinkies. But these disposables will be the route by which all vaping is killed off, by the tobacco lobby.

As a vaper myself, I'm honestly sick of tripping over discarded disposables, left like fag butts in the road, and the pavement. Each one that gets crushed by a car, or foot, releases the contents of the battery. That then gets flushed into our water system, and eventually into the sea. That means it gets into our houses and onto carpets, too.
Now if a committed vaper can draw that line, anybody else can.

I agree, as mentioned before I only ever used 2 disposables to move onto a full device and then persuaded my partner to stop using disposables. The habit is definitely stronger than the nicotine, I still go out in the garden sometimes to vape, the disruption of routine is definitely a factor as well.

I live both in Central London and the outskirts of west London and don't really see disposables anywhere so can't comment.

To me, an industry that looks to improve it's failures rather than petition to ban sectors of it is more progressive. I've seen a few manufacturers starting to push out liquids with the strength of disposables to help push people away from them more productively than trying to outright ban.

 

[vapervince]

The point about 0 nic is that it removes the establishments` argument that youngsters are getting hooked.

 

[DMAN]

I used zero nic for a few years, as i enjoyed the mechanics of vaping and the throat hit. Especially if i was having a beer or two. A family bereavement sent me back on to the fags for 6 months, but i'm back onto 3mg again. I might go back to zero, as i find it quite easy to do.

Edit. My young niece sometimes goes to a shisha bar and vapes flavoured 'smoke' but doesn't smoke cigs.

 

[Rickster]

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For all of you subscribed to our newsletter, you will have tried an e-cigarette and you will know that vaping is a fantastic way of stopping smoking. It is even supported by the NHS and Cancer Research.

For 7 years we have been providing e-liquid at an affordable price. But with the price of plastic rocketing, concentrates and our base ingredients nearly double on last year, not to mention the cost in electric to run a huge warehouse and cleanrooms, we head into an uncertain year!
So 2023 may be our last year keeping you all off the stinkies.

We know we have saved countless lives over the past 7 years. And we still love our jobs!

We have put everything into making our E-Liquid as safe as we possibly can with our state of the art cleanrooms and fully automated bottling machines plus thousands of pounds towards TPD testing. But we are noticing a huge drop in sales as people are switching to the ease of a disposable, to which you will find the shocking details below.

But before that, and before the rumour mill starts, we have 1 year to save DripDrop. If we see no improvement by Dec 2023 we will be sadly saying goodbye to a much loved career in saving lives.


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Saw this....as she has mentioned re costs TDP, plastics, ingredients energy, and prob wages have all gone up. Brexit and covid will be factors too.
Small indie's really need to find a way to get their liquid into disposables if that's where consumer demand is.
Drip drop have stated that disposables are the number one searched for item on their website, so they know this.
It's sad I use them got their nic shots, custard and new baccy "The One".... all very good., but it's increasingly looking likely that adapt by following the big guys (VV and the like) or die.
They sell disposables in their shops by the way.

 

[zouzounaki]