Are we relaxing lockdown measures too soon?

[vapesmarter]

It’s too soon but the country’s going into recession so money is more important

 

[Leni]

The Welsh, Scottish and NI governments think so. Be interesting to see how the above three will now handle things as they will have the advantage of watching from afar before they act.

Not so far really. Especially confusing if you live in one country and work in another.

 

[tanglewood]

Not so far really. Especially confusing if you live in one country and work in another.

Yes, I do believe that if you live in Wales and work in England and can't work from home, you are allowed to cross the boarder for work.

 

[BigCloud]

It’s too soon but the country’s going into recession so money is more important

was on the news earlier the recession to end all recessions

 

[Mawsley]

It’s too soon but the country’s going into recession so money is more important

Yep, but the figures didn't really cover C19. Guess it must have been one of the Brexit dividends they promised us.

 

[ForestMagpie]

Yes we are ending it too soon. I live in an area that is 5th in the country for infections per head of population. I'm not surprised based on what I've seen around here and if people can't stick to a full lockdown then relaxing the rules will cause more infections. It's down to money, it's as simple as that. If they want to pay for all the furloughed staff and the NHS and help ease a recession then they could scrap capital projects like HS2 but that won't sit well with Tory donors.

 

[Mitz]

Despite having the second worse death rate on the planet (we've stopped showing that graph in the daily briefings now so it"s not true any more, honest) thanks to our late, half-assed lockdown we now have enough spare capacity in our intensive care wards to handle many more people. Yes, 30% of you who end up there will die but if you are well off enough to avoid poor people you can now sell your house, play golf and go to the garden center. The Daily Mail will lose their shit over that so it's worth the unfortunate side-effects.

Depends on what rate you're looking at.

Italy 349 fatalities per 1 million.

Spain 399 fatalities per 1 million.

UK 182 fatalities per 1 million.

 

[wraith]

Depends on what rate you're looking at.

Italy 349 fatalities per 1 million.

Spain 399 fatalities per 1 million.

UK 182 fatalities per 1 million.

Yeah, trying to get accurate data is a bit of a pig. It's hard enough given the circumstances. This seems to back up your general point but with more depressing numbers.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-covid-deaths-per-million?country=ESP+GBR

Edit: But if you adjust for them getting hit first we are doing badly by comparison..

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...lion?zoomToSelection=true&country=ITA+ESP+GBR

 

[Mitz]

Yeah, trying to get accurate data is a bit of a pig. It's hard enough given the circumstances. This seems to back up your general point but with more depressing numbers.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/total-covid-deaths-per-million?country=ESP+GBR

Edit: But if you adjust for them getting hit first we are doing badly by comparison..

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...lion?zoomToSelection=true&country=ITA+ESP+GBR

Regardless of which rate you go by the reality is shocking whichever way you look at it. And it's far from over. 40% of fatalities are in care homes and infections are still far from being brought under control.

 

[ForestMagpie]

There are still too many people dying, end of as far as I am concerned. You can argue facts and figures and pop density and per million, doesn't matter, people are dying, this is not under control at all so to relax and open up the country is reckless and will cost lives.