Coils giving burnt taste very quickly - advice to avoid?

[ostrichpelican]

Hi,

I'm finding that with both my Nautilus X and T20s tank, the coils seem to develop a burnt taste rather quickly - maybe lasting a few days on average. Some seem to keep going a bit longer, but some less. Not sure if this is normal or user error...

I don't get through a lot of juice (maybe 2 to 4 ml a day), but sometimes I'll chain vape a bit and maybe this is what's killing the coils? As I understand if you take too many hits in a row, the cotton doesn't have time to re-saturate and you end up burning it. But what exactly is too many hits in a row, and how long exactly should you leave in between hits to be safe? Online guides I've seen are very vague here... I've been trying to leave say 10s between hits, or if I take 2 or 3 good hits in quick succession then leave for at least a minute. But still I feel like they're going bad a lot quicker than other users report.

I've also wondered if I'm just being overly sensitive to the burnt taste, or imagining it - but any time I've tried to keep a coil going longer than the first hint of burnt flavour I always regret it - it just gets worse quickly - also seems to irritate the lungs once it gets to this stage, so I figure I'm probably right to change coils at first hint of burnt flavour.

But it is normal to have them go bad so quickly? Or is there anything I can do to prevent it?

btw I'm vaping 6mg - on the nautilus X almost exclusively Red Astaire flavour.

Thanks!

 

[rtni]

Hi,

I'm finding that with both my Nautilus X and T20s tank, the coils seem to develop a burnt taste rather quickly - maybe lasting a few days on average. Some seem to keep going a bit longer, but some less. Not sure if this is normal or user error...

I don't get through a lot of juice (maybe 2 to 4 ml a day), but sometimes I'll chain vape a bit and maybe this is what's killing the coils? As I understand if you take too many hits in a row, the cotton doesn't have time to re-saturate and you end up burning it. But what exactly is too many hits in a row, and how long exactly should you leave in between hits to be safe? Online guides I've seen are very vague here... I've been trying to leave say 10s between hits, or if I take 2 or 3 good hits in quick succession then leave for at least a minute. But still I feel like they're going bad a lot quicker than other users report.

I've also wondered if I'm just being overly sensitive to the burnt taste, or imagining it - but any time I've tried to keep a coil going longer than the first hint of burnt flavour I always regret it - it just gets worse quickly - also seems to irritate the lungs once it gets to this stage, so I figure I'm probably right to change coils at first hint of burnt flavour.

But it is normal to have them go bad so quickly? Or is there anything I can do to prevent it?

btw I'm vaping 6mg - on the nautilus X almost exclusively Red Astaire flavour.

Thanks!

My biggest problem when I started vaping was adjusting to the fact that vaping and smoking are completely different. If you vape like you smoked you'd be going through coils very quickly. It's second nature now but I normally leave it about 30 seconds between puffs. When I smoked I had a cigarette finished in a minute. Usually forced by short breaks etc.

There are many other factors which will burn out a coil quickly like the type of jucie you are using.

I'm not familiar with those specific coils but some stock coils I am familiar with could burn out quickly regardless of how careful you treated them. There's also stock coils out there that are just garbage (again I can't comment on your coils).

I'm assumimg you're priming your coils correctly?

 

[Ruskie]

Sounds like a priming issue to me. If a coil is not primed and vaped too high too quick then the cotton will get singed and be tainted and will always taste off.

When you replace a coil ‘prime’ it by putting a couple of drops of liquid onto the wicking holes of the coil and a couple of drops directly into the coil chamber onto the cotton. Take a couple of puffs with the mod turned off. This helps draw the liquid into the cotton and saturate it. Put the mod down for 20 mins or so and when you do fire it up again start at a wattage much lower than recommended. Take a few hits then turn it up a few watts. Rinse repeat until you hit your desired wattage. A routine I’ve always followed and it seems to work.

 

[ostrichpelican]

My biggest problem when I started vaping was adjusting to the fact that vaping and smoking are completely different. If you vape like you smoked you'd be going through coils very quickly. It's second nature now but I normally leave it about 30 seconds between puffs. When I smoked I had a cigarette finished in a minute. Usually forced by short breaks etc.

30s is quite a while - are there any tanks/coils that tolerate more rapid MTL vaping? I guess part of the problem is I use low nicotine juice (6mg) but don't want to up this as I prefer lower nicotine and more tokes (I seem to need the flavour more than the nicotine!)

Sounds like a priming issue to me. If a coil is not primed and vaped too high too quick then the cotton will get singed and be tainted and will always taste off.

When you replace a coil ‘prime’ it by putting a couple of drops of liquid onto the wicking holes of the coil and a couple of drops directly into the coil chamber onto the cotton. Take a couple of puffs with the mod turned off. This helps draw the liquid into the cotton and saturate it. Put the mod down for 20 mins or so and when you do fire it up again start at a wattage much lower than recommended. Take a few hits then turn it up a few watts. Rinse repeat until you hit your desired wattage. A routine I’ve always followed and it seems to work.

I do do the priming thing, and try and leave it about half an hour after first filling (having noticed that 5 mins, as recommended by the instructions, doesn't seem long enough!). Had wondered about starting off new coils at lower wattages, though rarely do this - would you suggest lower than the coil is rated for, or just at the low end of the range of rated wattage? I guess the coil can't damaged by too LOW a wattage?

 

[rtni]

30s is quite a while - are there any tanks/coils that tolerate more rapid MTL vaping? I guess part of the problem is I use low nicotine juice (6mg) but don't want to up this as I prefer lower nicotine and more tokes (I seem to need the flavour more than the nicotine!)

30 seconds is just a conservative guide. Stock coils are certainly less forgiving in my experience. Have you considered usimg an RTA or an RDA and making your own coils?

 

[vandykevapes]

What kind of liquid are you using.... a lot of the time its usually down to sweeteners that kill the coil so darn quickly

 

[Vapen00b47]

what is the ratio of your eliquid?
what ohms is the coil?
what wattage are you vaping at?

 

[MrDJ]

Priming and starting low is the key.
If you vape at 50w then start on 20w and turn up a few watt after a few puffs.

 

[Ayumu]

I am having the same issue with the Smok Spiral Tank, other than discovering slowly that is not that good itself (got it because I needed a cheap replacement), I am burning coils like an arsonist: they last only a couple of days. Luckily the burn taste goes if I put it on lower W, like 22 or 21. But still on pack they say they can handle up to 35W. BAH!

It might be actually be related to the fact that we vape like we smoke, but then a question arises: how do you actually vape? how long are the hits? mine are 2.7 seconds on average.

 

[KetracelWhite]

Priming and starting low is the key.
If you vape at 50w then start on 20w and turn up a few watt after a few puffs.

This ^^^

Start low (20w odd) and ramp up power incrementally.

Also - first - prime the coils manually by putting drops of liquid directly on the coil through via the wicking holes when
you replace the coil, then assemble, fill tank, leave 10 mins. (1hr is overdoing it).