Coronavirus UK Daily Statistics

[Badboybez]

I remember that.

Missus has tried to do that several times to me over the last few years.......................

 

["Misfit"]

I'm off for some kip now
nite

 

[Crewella]

I'm off for some kip now
nite

G'night @Social Misfit

 

[Badboybez]

See I understand your point Rickster - for me I reckon the fact we are an island is exactly why it’s got so bad.
Once it was in it was in - I do think we didn’t start soon enough you are right - I still reckon tho it would have gone the same way (maybe slower) remember the first week or two of lockdown was a joke out there with people ignoring it - that would still have happened .. just sooner

this is one of those we will never know things ...

Taking it a little further, yes, we should (in hindsight, wonderful thing that) have started earlier, so in that case why are there still flights to, and from the UK ???????????

 

[Crewella]

Maybe not but still higher.
Is the UK not supposed to be an advanced nation compared to some of these other countries, so should have been better prepared.
We cant even get some plastic protective gear for our health service, but we sure know how to clap our hands.
Fat load of good that done us.
What we should have done from square one is shut up the borders
No planes, No boats and closed the channel tunnel.
As an advanced nation we should be self sufficient.

We like to think we are.

 

[Badboybez]

Fear does seem to be a relevant factor.
You can see here that the Asia/Pacific countries report more fear than Europe or the Americas
https://today.yougov.com/topics/international/articles-reports/2020/03/17/fear-catching-covid-19

You can look on the same site for how much these populations trust their governments.
Fear of the virus and trust in the government are both related to compliance with rules and lower transmission.

There are so many factors at play that there are no easy comparisons.

Trust in the government, well that's Russia fucked then.
Fear of the virus, no chance, withe enough state supplied vodka.

 

[Crewella]

Trust in the government, well that's Russia fucked then.
Fear of the virus, no chance, withe enough state supplied vodka.

Russia doesn't seem to be doing much better than we are .................

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world...-russian-hospital-staff-working-without-masks

 

[Badboybez]

The problem is that there are so many different variables in play - population, population density, that we are an island, the government and their response, the public and their behaviour, the list goes on. It's kinda pointless to compare death rates as there are huge differences between how countries record deaths, the quality of their healthcare and how their people behave. What we have to concentrate on right now is how to protect people, that is what is important, we can go through all the who, what,when, where, why, how later.
Has the government made mistakes? Yes
Has Boris made mistakes? Yes
Has the public made mistakes? Yes
Has there been a whole lot of other factors we have considered and not considered? Yes.

Let's all do what we can to stop people dying, stay safe, keep others safe and then investigate and learn when this is over.

Very well put mate.

 

[Badboybez]

30k deaths is not hype....it's a fact.

Yes 30k deaths is a fact, my point was that the media have nicely hyped it up, "worse deaths than Italy" with no reference to the fact that Italy has a lower population.
That's, the thing, it's the media's job, whether TV, newspapers, magazines, bloggers, and fuck knows who else to whip up a good earner for themselves.
As with anything, they will turn a tragedy into into the end of the world. That is how they all earn their money. People talk about others, such as small shops profiteering over the situation, is that not the same thing ???????
I don't really want to dwell to much on my figures about seasonal flu, but how many times in the last, say, five years have you seen it reported daily in the media a daily count going up to as high as 10k people dying from flu ???????????

 

[Badboybez]

A wee stream , not quite a river

We call them brooks in England.