Dafuq happened here then? This thread’s a train wreck :5:

[andipandi]

We need some boobs

Pics of pussy is much better than pics of cats, thank you!

 

[HAZZA1962]

What exactly do you mean by "As a direct result of the virus" ? There are people who have been/ will be included in the covid death stats, who didn't die of covid and there are people who died as a result of catching covid, who won't or haven't been included in the covid death stats. I would say that we will never know the true and accurate figures, re covid deaths. Just because we don't and probably won't ever know the true figure it doesn't diminish the fact that lots of people have died and will die, to quote Boris "Before their time", as a result from catching covid.

There are shit tons of factual and obituary style articles, cluttered all over the net from the family, friends & colleagues of people who have died, as a result of catching covid, i don't think those families, friends and colleagues are lying.

I didn't say people hadn't died of Covid, I said we don't know the exact number, because anyone who dies in Hospital within 28 day's of a positive test goes on the statistics, you could die within 28 day's of having an STD, it doesn't mean you died of an STD !!!

 

[SirLugg]

I didn't say people hadn't died of Covid, I said we don't know the exact number, because anyone who dies in Hospital within 28 day's of a positive test goes on the statistics, you could die within 28 day's of having an STD, it doesn't mean you died of an STD !!!

I hear you H. I think they’re fiddling the figures to add to the psychological impact too.

Like so. You’re looking at the red area at the top which is served by the three hospitals on the letter from North Wales NHS. The news reports 521 deaths, the letter 23 with C19 as the ONLY cause.

Don’t get me wrong, covid could’ve bought on a heart attack, haemorrhage etc etc, but then when you throw something else in the mix the figure has to be diluted somewhat, and that’s a potential 93% of the media quoted figures that are skewed. Apply that to the whole of the UK then there’s a real conundrum in the maths department.

Having said all that shit it is a real thing, I’m convinced I’ve had it, I know my brother and his family has too, and I’ve no doubt it can cause some catastrophic harm. But with media opting for the dramatic it’s bound to sway some of the public’s opinion on the pandemic as a whole.

 

[vapesmarter]

I can understand the confusion over deaths and covid lots of people are saying they need to know how many “pure” covid deaths there are, I would expect the figures to be low but covid and any respiratory trait infection doesn't work like that.

the strains on the body are immense so other factors come into play covid is a trigger to other complications.

saying they are old or would of died anyway or had a bad heart or were big girl/bloke is pretty lax.

but ok you can prove it you’ve hacked the site found a paper people are still dying anyway winning by holding up a report won’t help you when your loved one is in hospital with covid and that has triggered a stroke heart attack sepsis ......

 

[Mitz]

I hear you H. I think they’re fiddling the figures to add to the psychological impact too.

Like so. You’re looking at the red area at the top which is served by the three hospitals on the letter from North Wales NHS. The news reports 521 deaths, the letter 23 with C19 as the ONLY cause.

Don’t get me wrong, covid could’ve bought on a heart attack, haemorrhage etc etc, but then when you throw something else in the mix the figure has to be diluted somewhat, and that’s a potential 93% of the media quoted figures that are skewed. Apply that to the whole of the UK then there’s a real conundrum in the maths department.

Having said all that shit it is a real thing, I’m convinced I’ve had it, I know my brother and his family has too, and I’ve no doubt it can cause some catastrophic harm. But with media opting for the dramatic it’s bound to sway some of the public’s opinion on the pandemic as a whole.

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I absolutely agree 100% with the widespread sentiment that a very large part of the MSM are sensation seeking, event hyping, cockwombles. BUT, I would question what the contributing factors are. You asked for Covid only deaths. That's basically people with no other health conditions to my ears. So what are the underlying health issues that constitute contributing factors. If it's asthma, obesity, diabetes, hypertension and many of the other very manable and treatable conditions that people can live entire lifetimes with then it really doesn't detract from the officially stated numbers in my eyes.

 

[SirLugg]

I absolutely agree 100% that a very large part of the MSM are sensation seeking, event hyping, cockwombles. BUT, I would wonder what the contributing factors are. You asked for Covid only deaths. That's basically people with no other health conditions to my ears. So what are the underlying health issues that constitute contributing factors. If it's asthma, obesity, diabetes, hypertension and many of the other very manable and treatable conditions that people live lifetimes with then it really doesn't detract from the officially stated numbers in my eyes.

I get that mate, and I’m not here to argue with you because I agree with a lot of what you’ve said up to this point to be honest, and truth be told the real truth probably lies somewhere between our opinions anyway because neither of us are privy to cold, hard government facts.

Like it said, it’s potentially catastrophic and 100% needs addressing - but making people scared of anything unnecessarily is a bad move because breeding fear will also have negative long term effects.

So yeah, not disagreeing , at all, but we don’t know because they’re not telling us. And that stinks.

 

[Mitz]

I get that mate, and I’m not here to argue with you because I agree with a lot of what you’ve said up to this point to be honest, and truth be told the real truth probably lies somewhere between our opinions anyway because neither of us are privy to cold, hard government facts.

Like it said, it’s potentially catastrophic and 100% needs addressing - but making people scared of anything unnecessarily is a bad move because breeding fear will also have negative long term effects.

So yeah, not disagreeing , at all, but we don’t know because they’re not telling us. And that stinks.

Not arguing mate. Just chatting. Unfortunately, the 24hr news cycle doesn't help. I remember growing up and the news would be on at 6am, 1pm and 10pm. Now it's on a dozen channels 24hrs a day. With so many people at home around the clock I have no doubt it makes up a lot of people's daily viewing. Personally, I stopped watching the news entirely for around 3 months. Now I watch a bit but mostly CNN because I can never get enough of listening to people slamming Trump. Even mental health professionals at the beggining of the pandemic were recommending publicly to limit daily news intake. The current constant 24hr cycle sucks balls IMHO.

 

[SirLugg]

Not arguing mate. Just chatting. Unfortunately, the 24hr news cycle doesn't help. I remember growing up and the news would be on at 6am, 1pm and 10pm. Now it's on a dozen channels 24hrs a day. With so many people at home around the clock I have no doubt it makes up a lot of people's daily viewing. Personally, I stopped watching the news entirely for around 3 months. Now I watch a bit but mostly CNN because I can never get enough of listening to people slamming Trump. Even mental health professionals at the beggining of the pandemic were recommending publicly to limit daily news intake. The current constant 24hr cycle sucks balls IMHO.

Agreed. I believe you and I are the same age so that probably resonates more than you’d think.
It’s like having to listen to Mariah Carey on repeat - nothing at all pleasant about it, and when every time there is the slightest update they force feed it to you between regular programming too it gets a bit much.

I just don’t believe the news . At all. Unless I’ve physically got it from a source I can trust I generally don’t pay it much attention because I’ll automatically assume it’s false, as all news outlets have an agenda of some sorts. The most reliable for international news imo seems to be Al Jazeera, but even they’re prone to the odd right wind bung.

 

[Rob]

Couldn't agree more @Mitz. We stopped watching the news about 6 months ago. I use various News sites about twice a day and that'll do me thanks.
The whole Covis and Brexit thing has NOT shown our media in a good light has it!

 

[crustyfolker]

What ?

If you have something to say, then say it.

If not, don't make meaningless posts.

Lol you have to click on the box for some reason it has quoted you and my post together, thus it looks like a haven't posted. fuck knows how it happened, but it wasn't meant to post as it has come out.