decades of covid

[Enoch]

What do you mean the bottom figure doesn't increase? You're confusing me now.

1 is a whole of anything.

1 = 1 whole. 1.3 is adding on 1/3rd. One and a third. 1 and .3 = 1.3

If something is 100% more deadly than it goes from 1 to 2 with two being double of 1. 2 is 100% more than 1 as it's twice the amount of the figure used to represent 1 basically 100% more.

You are looking at it in two different ways at the same time. Saying the figure has increased by 30% of what it was originally is true, but in relation to the ratio that the figure was presented , it isn't increasing by the same proportion.

10 to 13 per 1000 may be an increase of 30% based on the 10 but that is assuming you use the 10 as the figure. If the 10 is in proportion to 1000 then it's not increasing by 30 percent.

It's two different sums you are using at the same time which don't match up , if that makes sense?

If you break it down to 100 for a basic percentage.

1 % increases to 1.3% of the overall ratio. For it to increase by 30% it would go up by 30, or in the 1000 sense, 300.

The 10 is only relative to the 1000. As it means literally 10 per 1000 , so 1% of the figure. To call it a 30% increase its ignoring the base figure that the proportion is determined on.

Or in simpler terms , 10 of what? You have to have a 10 of something to determine a ratio. So you can only increase by the of number to have an accurate increase.

Otherwise 10 increasing to 13 is only increasing by 30% if the total number is 20, rather than a thousand.

that would be correct. if a death rate increased from one/anything to two/anything, it would be a 100% increase.

In the instance we are discussing it's not changing. Whether it's 10 or 100 per 1000 the last number doesn't change. Otherwise the ratio does not change at all, as previously said.

 

[Mitz]

You are looking at it in two different ways at the same time. Saying the figure has increased by 30% of what it was originally is true, but in relation to the ratio that the figure was presented , it isn't increasing by the same proportion.

10 to 13 per 1000 may be an increase of 30% based on the 10 but that is assuming you use the 10 as the figure. If the 10 is in proportion to 1000 then it's not increasing by 30 percent.

It's two different sums you are using at the same time which don't match up , if that makes sense?

If you break it down to 100 for a basic percentage.

1 % increases to 1.3% of the overall ratio. For it to increase by 30% it would go up by 30, or in the 1000 sense, 300.

The 10 is only relative to the 1000. As it means literally 10 per 1000 , so 1% of the figure. To call it a 30% increase its ignoring the base figure that the proportion is determined on.

Or in simpler terms , 10 of what? You have to have a 10 of something to determine a ratio. So you can only increase by the of number to have an accurate increase.

Otherwise 10 increasing to 13 is only increasing by 30% if the total number is 20, rather than a thousand.



In the instance we are discussing it's not changing. Whether it's 10 or 100 per 1000 the last number doesn't change. Otherwise the ratio does not change at all, as previously said.

Sorry dude, I give up. Gonna leave this one to @zouzounaki

But I can assure you that 1.3 is a 30% increase on 1.

 

[knome]

Otherwise 10 increasing to 13 is only increasing by 30% if the total number is 20, rather than a thousand.

The total can be any number; 20, 1000, 553, whatever. 10 increasing to 13 will always be 30%.

Edit... please ignore... I may be wrong.

 

[Mitz]

The total can be any number; 20, 1000, 553, whatever. 10 increasing to 13 will always be 30%.

Exactly. As I previously posted, 1 is the whole. That whole can be a whole anything. It can represent any number wanted. Doesn't have to be a thousand. Can be 100.

1 x 100
1.5 x 150
2 x 200
1.3 130

Again, the difference between 1 and 1.3 is still 30%

It can't be any other way.

 

[zouzounaki]

You are looking at it in two different ways at the same time. Saying the figure has increased by 30% of what it was originally is true, but in relation to the ratio that the figure was presented , it isn't increasing by the same proportion.

10 to 13 per 1000 may be an increase of 30% based on the 10 but that is assuming you use the 10 as the figure. If the 10 is in proportion to 1000 then it's not increasing by 30 percent.

It's two different sums you are using at the same time which don't match up , if that makes sense?

If you break it down to 100 for a basic percentage.

1 % increases to 1.3% of the overall ratio. For it to increase by 30% it would go up by 30, or in the 1000 sense, 300.

The 10 is only relative to the 1000. As it means literally 10 per 1000 , so 1% of the figure. To call it a 30% increase its ignoring the base figure that the proportion is determined on.

Or in simpler terms , 10 of what? You have to have a 10 of something to determine a ratio. So you can only increase by the of number to have an accurate increase.

Otherwise 10 increasing to 13 is only increasing by 30% if the total number is 20, rather than a thousand.



In the instance we are discussing it's not changing. Whether it's 10 or 100 per 1000 the last number doesn't change. Otherwise the ratio does not change at all, as previously said.

imagine your friend had 100 giant bananas. if you had one giant banana, and he gave you 3/10ths, or 0.3 giant bananas, your wealth in giant bananas will have increased by 30%.

now imagine your friend has 1000 giant bananas, and you only have 1/10th, or 0.1 giant bananas. your friend gives you 0.03 giant bananas. despite you now only having 0.13 giant bananas, your share of giant bananas has still increased by 30%.

you can replace giant bananas with anything else and this still works the same.

 

[Mitz]

imagine your friend had 100 giant bananas. if you had one giant banana, and he gave you 3/10ths, or 0.3 giant bananas, your wealth in giant bananas will have increased by 30%.

now imagine your friend has 1000 giant bananas, and you only have 1/10th, or 0.1 giant bananas. your friend gives you 0.03 giant bananas. despite you now only having 0.13 giant bananas, your share of giant bananas has still increased by 30%.

you can replace giant bananas with anything else and this still works the same.

 

[knome]

You are looking at it in two different ways at the same time. Saying the figure has increased by 30% of what it was originally is true, but in relation to the ratio that the figure was presented , it isn't increasing by the same proportion.

10 to 13 per 1000 may be an increase of 30% based on the 10 but that is assuming you use the 10 as the figure. If the 10 is in proportion to 1000 then it's not increasing by 30 percent.

It's two different sums you are using at the same time which don't match up , if that makes sense?

If you break it down to 100 for a basic percentage.

1 % increases to 1.3% of the overall ratio. For it to increase by 30% it would go up by 30, or in the 1000 sense, 300.

The 10 is only relative to the 1000. As it means literally 10 per 1000 , so 1% of the figure. To call it a 30% increase its ignoring the base figure that the proportion is determined on.

Or in simpler terms , 10 of what? You have to have a 10 of something to determine a ratio. So you can only increase by the of number to have an accurate increase.

Otherwise 10 increasing to 13 is only increasing by 30% if the total number is 20, rather than a thousand.



In the instance we are discussing it's not changing. Whether it's 10 or 100 per 1000 the last number doesn't change. Otherwise the ratio does not change at all, as previously said.

Your explanation is terrible, why can't you post a link... or summats?

13 minus 10 = 3
3 divided by original total, say 1000, is 0.3% increase.
3 divided by original total, say 20, is 15% increase.

 

[vapesmarter]

 

[zouzounaki]

Your explanation is terrible, why can't you post a link... or summats?

13 minus 10 = 3
3 divided by original total, say 1000, is 0.3% increase.
3 divided by original total, say 20, is 15% increase.

what @Sacred Vape seems to be saying is that we are right and wrong at the same time.

 

[knome]

what @Sacred Vape seems to be saying is that we are right and wrong at the same time.

It's like all stats... the numbers are never wrong... you pick the ones to suit your agenda.