Fake Charger

[cindy99]

True. See how long it stays up.

Take a screenshot as proof of next day batteries' supplying fake products [emoji6]

 

[Ben fogstar]

NDB is VAT registered - but he's on the flat rate scheme which allows him to only pay 6% of his total turnover. This is how he keeps his competitive edge - But you have to opt out at £230,000 turnover by law. This is where he wouldn't be competitive anymore, as he'd now have to pay full VAT.

You can't start a new business to reset your turnover, this is tax evasion. He's done this with 2 companies now, and looks like he's planning his third. So forget the 80k - think more £460,000.

EDIT - HMRC will be able to track this - if he used his own name for this new company, but he hasn't. He's used someone else's, and is funnelling the sales through the NDB website. You could potentially get away with this forever, unless reported and investigated.

I think many of us in this industry knew all along this was going on - how someone, with next to no buying power - can compete with companies with buying power - and for this long.

Why not push wholesale with prices like that - NDB has never really pushed wholesale at all. Why? Because it's wasted turnover - why make less on your road to 230k?

We decided not to get involved, and focus on ourselves rather than him . There are no short cuts. Whilst you may be able to run for so long and live the good life (nice new car BTW Josh) eventually everything catches up to you.

 

[Sairriolth]

Hadn't checked the thread yesterday, still got a few pages to read through so my bad if we're past the subjects I'm quoting

Welcome to the Planet - shove the drama Llama out of the way and pick up some popcorn - I think this thread may run for a while yet...

Cheers fella, I don't check the thread for a day and come back to 40+ more pages, it's gonna be a fun morning hahaha

Doesn't wash. Just realised he isn't as smart as he thinks he is and being true to form he blames booze for racist comments - funny I get drunk and never made one.

See there's a reason people go drinking early in a relationship, drunk people tell the truth. Blaming alcohol literally is just you saying "Sorry I was drunk and because of the alcohol I lost control of my verbal filter and said what I really thought"

Honestly guys, I give up, I've apologised and done everything I can, I expected the majority of you to be more mature than this, if this is what someone gets after they come clean and apologise then it's pretty sad, I've said everything I have to say. Night all

You can't call people immature (Or less mature than yourself) when you haven't posted a fucking notice on your website alerting people to the potential fire hazard that may burn down their house, kill their family and/or pets and ruin their entire life. You commented saying Tesco never broadcast their horse meat fiasco on the front doors, no fucking shit, horse meat won't kill anyone you moron. That was a cost cutting scandal, not an issue of public damn safety.

 

[Chuck Norris]

Honestly guys, I give up, I've apologised and done everything I can, I expected the majority of you to be more mature than this, if this is what someone gets after they come clean and apologise then it's pretty sad, I've said everything I have to say. Night all

You haven't though! I've just been on your site. Screen shot below:

Instead of your "Latest news 10/10/17" banner saying everything's fine, delete this and replace it with a nice big red WARNING banner telling customers to check their Nitecore chargers and stick a link in there with how to spot a fake before some poor sods house burns down, family/kids get killed and you end up in the prison!

 

[eyeball kid]

Next Day Batteries. Please place a banner on your website to inform any customers who have bought a charger from you to stop using the charger and take it to a reputable dealer to be checked for authentication.
These chargers could be dangerous and cause loss of life.




Every day. I promise.

 

[Chuck Norris]

What do you think the best option is a: email everyone who has ordered an i4 Charger, b: plaster a notice on the website for a recall which will deter new customers but also won't be seen by any one time purchasers who doesn't re visit the site frequently?

Jesus Christ man!!!!! BOTH!!!!!

 

[Axel]

NDB is VAT registered - but he's on the flat rate scheme which allows him to only pay 6% of his total turnover. This is how he keeps his competitive edge - But you have to opt out at £230,000 turnover by law. This is where he wouldn't be competitive anymore, as he'd now have to pay full VAT.

You can't start a new business to reset your turnover, this is tax evasion. He's done this with 2 companies now, and looks like he's planning his third. So forget the 80k - think more £460,000.

EDIT - HMRC will be able to track this - if he used his own name for this new company, but he hasn't. He's used someone else's, and is funnelling the sales through the NDB website. You could potentially get away with this forever, unless reported and investigated.

I think many of us in this industry knew all along this was going on - how someone, with next to no buying power - can compete with companies with buying power - and for this long.

Why not push wholesale with prices like that - NDB has never really pushed wholesale at all. Why? Because it's wasted turnover - why make less on your road to 230k?

We decided not to get involved, and focus on ourselves rather than him - everything catches up to you eventually, there are no short cuts. Whilst you may be able to run for so long and live the good life (nice new car BTW Josh) eventually everything catches up to you.

Thanks for that explanation Ben, Wow this guy really is a Prince, not only screwing over his customers & the Tax man, but also doing it in a way that gives him an unfair (& illegal) advantage over companies that play by the rules.

That just makes it all the more impressive to me that you and 18650 were so ready to step up to the plate for the people he did over. Next time I'm in the market for any gear you can be sure I'll be putting my business in both of your directions. You've both earned my deep respect and admiration over this & I'm sure many here will feel the same way.

 

[18650UK]

NDB is VAT registered - but he's on the flat rate scheme which allows him to only pay 6% of his total turnover. This is how he keeps his competitive edge - But you have to opt out at £230,000 turnover by law. This is where he wouldn't be competitive anymore, as he'd now have to pay full VAT.

You can't start a new business to reset your turnover, this is tax evasion. He's done this with 2 companies now, and looks like he's planning his third. So forget the 80k - think more £460,000.

EDIT - HMRC will be able to track this - if he used his own name for this new company, but he hasn't. He's used someone else's, and is funnelling the sales through the NDB website. You could potentially get away with this forever, unless reported and investigated.

I think many of us in this industry knew all along this was going on - how someone, with next to no buying power - can compete with companies with buying power - and for this long.

Why not push wholesale with prices like that - NDB has never really pushed wholesale at all. Why? Because it's wasted turnover - why make less on your road to 230k?

We decided not to get involved, and focus on ourselves rather than him - everything catches up to you eventually, there are no short cuts. Whilst you may be able to run for so long and live the good life (nice new car BTW Josh) eventually everything catches up to you.

This. All of this.

While the rest of us work long days and suffer sleepless nights trying to offer the best products and by the book, others skirt the law to make a few extra pence, all the while damaging the industry through malpractice, negligence and being abusive to anyone who disagrees.

I dont know what more we can do.

In the absence of NDB initiating a full and comprehensive recall of the chargers, this morning i've sent a mailshot to around 2000 vape related businesses across the UK, clients and non clients (including a link to this thread) asking them to just check their stock and be mindful of any new stock they have coming in.

 

[MrDJ]

Also a good idea NDB to add a disclaimer that if anyone has a authenticity code of 8642 4584 7001 2871 to return it immediately. It may well of been a authentic code when the product was produced by Nitecore but it's now being used as a fake code on many boxes.

 

[Superaereo]

This. All of this.

While the rest of us work long days and suffer sleepless nights trying to offer the best products and by the book, others skirt the law to make a few extra pence, all the while damaging the industry through malpractice, negligence and being abusive to anyone who disagrees.

I dont know what more we can do.

In the absence of NDB initiating a full and comprehensive recall of the chargers, this morning i've sent a mailshot to around 2000 vape related businesses across the UK, clients and non clients (including a link to this thread) asking them to just check their stock and be mindful of any new stock they have coming in.

I hope you included a mention of the code 8642 4584 7001 2871 which has turned up on at least four boxes...