Fake Charger

[newbmark]

This makes sense, as you can't personally apply for the flat rate scheme more than once. So Battery Wizard applied in the previous directors name, and handed over the josh, Company 1 flat rate done. Josh then started his own company and applied (technically for the first time) company 2 flat rate done. Josh then needed a 3rd person to apply for the 3rd time - MTN partnership with someone elses name. Company 3 flat rate done.

Edit - Shouldn't be getting involved - I'll stop now

Edit - Actually, bollocks to it. - If Josh 'magically' becomes the director of this new company - then I've sussed him. He's using other people to apply for flat rate, and then taking over the company.

The source of the MTpartnership site is farcical, just do a search in there for next and you can see all of the references to next day batteries. You can see that the "customer also bought" code is referenced to the next day batteries website!!!

You can also see that all of the aforementioned companies have used the same agent to form the company (companies made simple).

To get one over the tax man you need to a.) be smart and b.) not piss people off so they go looking for dirt on you! I believe it's only a matter of time, if he is doing as has been speculated and manipulating the flat rate scheme there's a sizeable amount of VAT owing, and HMRC aren't known for their patience or understanding.

 

[Chuck Norris]

Chuck why dont you go and kick his teeth in?

Tbh mate I'd be going fucking bananas now if I'd bought one of his fake chargers. Got a 7 month old baby girl back home, Army head back on and go fucking loopy. This is a serious issue and he needs to sort it. How the hell is he going to recall chargers bought over the counter though?

 

[Sairriolth]

Tbh mate I'd be going fucking bananas now if I'd bought one of his fake chargers. Got a 7 month old baby girl back home, Army head back on and go fucking loopy. This is a serious issue and he needs to sort it. How the hell is he going to recall chargers bought over the counter though?

Simple answer is he can't mate, I work in a vape shop myself and while I know my regular customers rather well, there's plenty of customers I've seen maybe once or twice, plenty that I see maybe once a month as they stock up each time they visit and LOADS of tourists that I never see more than once, for obvious reasons.

BUT, even though I know my regulars well I have no contact information for them if I did ever need to get in touch

However this raises another problem, see if Josh has supplied a B&M with fake chargers and one of those goes nuclear it will immediately come back at the B&M that sold it and it WILL ruin their business if it happens. That won't fall back on Josh or Next Day Batteries because the B&M sold it to the customer and the immediate backlash and media will blame the B&M before they even get chance to blame the supplier. Granted every B&M should check validity of products, as Josh / Next Day Batteries should do before selling them wholesale but I would imagine a lot of shops would take word from the supplier, after all we all assume the supplier checks before selling them to us as vendors right?

Along with everything else, we can also add potentially endangering partially innocent companies that he may supply.

 

[Mitz]

NDB is VAT registered - but he's on the flat rate scheme which allows him to only pay 6% of his total turnover. This is how he keeps his competitive edge - But you have to opt out at £230,000 turnover by law. This is where he wouldn't be competitive anymore, as he'd now have to pay full VAT.

You can't start a new business to reset your turnover, this is tax evasion. He's done this with 2 companies now, and looks like he's planning his third. So forget the 80k - think more £460,000.

EDIT - HMRC will be able to track this - if he used his own name for this new company, but he hasn't. He's used someone else's, and is funnelling the sales through the NDB website. You could potentially get away with this forever, unless reported and investigated.

I think many of us in this industry knew all along this was going on - how someone, with next to no buying power - can compete with companies with buying power - and for this long.

Why not push wholesale with prices like that - NDB has never really pushed wholesale at all. Why? Because it's wasted turnover - why make less on your road to 230k?

We decided not to get involved, and focus on ourselves rather than him . There are no short cuts. Whilst you may be able to run for so long and live the good life (nice new car BTW Josh) eventually everything catches up to you.

Lucky for me, I've got feck all to do today apart from write an email to HMRC! Josh's reply to me about Tesco's horse meat scandall was the last straw. Hope the guy gets locked up.

 

[The Vaping Postman]

 

[zouzounaki]

Lucky for me, I've got feck all to do today apart from write an email to HMRC! Josh's reply to me about Tesco's horse meat scandall was the last straw. Hope the guy gets locked up.

I can’t believe how many times he has tripped himself up. As well as being an absolute moron he’s a fucking idiot into the bargain. Good shout on reporting him.

 

[Jon The Vape]

The UK Vaping Industry Association website www.ukvia.co.uk has a contact page. Is it time to alert them. They represent the UK supply chain.

 

[newbmark]

The UK Vaping Industry Association website www.ukvia.co.uk has a contact page. Is it time to alert them. They represent the UK supply chain.

Not sure how much they would be interested in getting involved as Next Day Batteries (and all other incarnations) just sell batteries, they are not a vaping specific business.

 

[SirLugg]

Where’s that Mark please?

 

[WaitFor1t88]

Where’s that Mark please?

AV , you shall not pass