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[anthonyb]

Funny enough, just been investigating airflow, with buddy P.Busardo. If I've got this right, which I think I have. You are sucking to hard on the evods and davide. Theory being, when you suck, 2 things happen.
1. you draw air in, the harder you suck the more air.
2. When you suck, you not only draw air in, but you also create a bit of a vacuum in the tank, which in turn helps draw liquid into the wick.
So with this said, a strong suck would give an airier vape and excess juice on the wick.
Excess juice = flooded coil. Next strong suck and the juice is away into your mouth.
Just tested this theory on me davide, while typing, and it flooded.

So my advice (that might not work) is try not to suck on the evods and davide to hard and see if this helps.
And like the man say's, they give airier vape than a ce4/5 anyway.

 

[bluemarky]

Get the ptfe tape out and restrict some air intake it helped on the t3s I had and that had 3 air holes

 

[anthonyb]

Get the ptfe tape out and restrict some air intake it helped on the t3s I had and that had 3 air holes

PTFE thread seal tape. Great for sealing leaky ce4/5's and anything else that's leaking from a threaded joint.

 

[VaperCaper]

When you're vaping on the evods how full are they?

Evods and protanks (and all of that type of bottom coil atomiser) use the pressure difference between the liquid in the tank and the air in the centre channel to regulate the flow of e-liquid into the coil.

It sounds like you are sucking too hard, and are pulling too much liquid into the coil as a result.

Vaping isn't like smoking. If you draw hard it doesn't work too well. Ideally you want to take long slow draws and inhale the vapour into your mouth and then take it into your lungs after you have a mouthful.

If you draw too quick the increased airflow cools the coil down and reduces the amount of vapour being produced, in a bottom coil tank this then leads to flooding and gurgling/spitting, whereas in a top coil design you get nasty dry its as the wicks can't keep up.

A CE4 and other top coil type atomisers are easier to learn to vape on.

If you draw harder on a lit cigarette the increased flow of oxygen means the end burns hotter and the smoke keeps up, there's no burning in an e-cig so that doesn't happen.

I'd stick to the evod/protanks you have for a little while longer before going after an RSST.

Genesis atomisers are difficult to learn to coil and wick well. Once you have the hang of it they're a walk in the park but the first few coils you make are unlikely to be that great. The RSST is definitely the easiest of all the Genesis style atomisers to learn to wick bcause it has a covered tank base, an insulated wick hole (which stops it shorting out) and if you use the Peter-K or drill bit method they are relatively easy to setup, so don't hold off too long, but if you have problems with evods you're probably going to have more problems with Genesis atomisers and the worst thing to happen would be getting frustrated after getting a new device and giving up vaping altogether.

You can get a good vape with lots of vapour and good throat hit from a small 650 eGo battery with a 1.8ohm evod on it.

If you want a bigger and better mod the MVP is a good choice, as is the vamo the ZMax the SVD and the SID all similar specs and similar prices.

If you are going to go down the route of Genesis atomisers with an RSST pretty soon then you want to get a regulated mod with a resistance checker built into it for sure. I'd pickup one of those and an IGO-L dripper and learn to build good coils on the IGO-L for a week or so and then get an RSST. Once you have one of those then learn to build good wicks/coils on that at about 1.2ohms or so.

If that's the kind of vape that works for you then is a good time to investigate mech mods.

If you get the drawing technique right on an evod first you could save yourself other issues later down the road when you upgrade to bigger and better kit

 

[MittenKitten]

When you're vaping on the evods how full are they?

Evods and protanks (and all of that type of bottom coil atomiser) use the pressure difference between the liquid in the tank and the air in the centre channel to regulate the flow of e-liquid into the coil.

It sounds like you are sucking too hard, and are pulling too much liquid into the coil as a result.

Vaping isn't like smoking. If you draw hard it doesn't work too well. Ideally you want to take long slow draws and inhale the vapour into your mouth and then take it into your lungs after you have a mouthful.

If you draw too quick the increased airflow cools the coil down and reduces the amount of vapour being produced, in a bottom coil tank this then leads to flooding and gurgling/spitting, whereas in a top coil design you get nasty dry its as the wicks can't keep up.

A CE4 and other top coil type atomisers are easier to learn to vape on.

If you draw harder on a lit cigarette the increased flow of oxygen means the end burns hotter and the smoke keeps up, there's no burning in an e-cig so that doesn't happen.

I'd stick to the evod/protanks you have for a little while longer before going after an RSST.

Genesis atomisers are difficult to learn to coil and wick well. Once you have the hang of it they're a walk in the park but the first few coils you make are unlikely to be that great. The RSST is definitely the easiest of all the Genesis style atomisers to learn to wick bcause it has a covered tank base, an insulated wick hole (which stops it shorting out) and if you use the Peter-K or drill bit method they are relatively easy to setup, so don't hold off too long, but if you have problems with evods you're probably going to have more problems with Genesis atomisers and the worst thing to happen would be getting frustrated after getting a new device and giving up vaping altogether.

You can get a good vape with lots of vapour and good throat hit from a small 650 eGo battery with a 1.8ohm evod on it.

If you want a bigger and better mod the MVP is a good choice, as is the vamo the ZMax the SVD and the SID all similar specs and similar prices.

If you are going to go down the route of Genesis atomisers with an RSST pretty soon then you want to get a regulated mod with a resistance checker built into it for sure. I'd pickup one of those and an IGO-L dripper and learn to build good coils on the IGO-L for a week or so and then get an RSST. Once you have one of those then learn to build good wicks/coils on that at about 1.2ohms or so.

If that's the kind of vape that works for you then is a good time to investigate mech mods.

If you get the drawing technique right on an evod first you could save yourself other issues later down the road when you upgrade to bigger and better kit

I had the same problem with the Evods, loved it for the first 5 minutes, some of our customers can't get enough, but I swap and change between the CE5 and my wonderful Mini Vivi Nova, the Mini Vivi Nova is easy to fill, easy to maintain and it's a great vape, with lots of throat hit and vapour. Try one x MK

 

[steffijade]

Hello all, new here and new to vaping and need some help!

A couple of weeks ago i decided to give vaping a go and get off the stinkies, great decision and i have not looked back. However, vaping has not been plain sailing!!

I started off by buying a eGo vision 650 with a CE4 clearomiser. It was great, i loved it for the first few days then decided i needed a better hit. After a little research i decided on a kanger evod clearomiser, mainly because it looked better. After using it for 5 minutes i was back to the CE4, i found the evod was like sucking through a straw with lots of air and a gargling noise, also the occasional bit of eliquid in my mouth.

I decided that it must have just been a dodgy clearomiser so bought another, same thing happened. After a little research i found out i could change the coil/atomiser. I wanted a big throat hit so bough a 1.8 ohms coil. Unfortunately nothing changed, i was still sucking on air with a mouthful of eliquid from time to time.

Today i decided to buy an ANYVAPE DAVIDE. Although it was an OK vape to start with it was still a little bit too much air and no throat hit. I persisted with it until i picked it up after a cup of tea and got the gargling noise and a bit of eliquid in my mouth!! I took it all apart, clean it and tried again but no different. ITS DRIVING ME INSANE!!

I am now back to the original CE4, again.

I really can't figure out what i am doing wrong? why do i keep breaking them? surely i couldn't have bought 3 dodgy ones in a row?

I like vaping and don't want to go back to ciggies so i am willing to spend more to get the perfect vape.

I want something thats reliable, will give a strong throat hit and produce a lot of vape, any suggestions? I thinking of a Innokin iTaste MVP2, wise choice?

Thanks in advance

The CE4 is a top coil clearo and these generally produce a warmer vape than a bottom coil, so try looking at another top coil set up and you might get on a bit better.. something like a vivi nova perhaps.

Also, try and get hold of a battery device that uses larger batteries and is either variable voltage (VV) or variable wattage (VW) a vamo is a decent, cheapish device.

If you get a VV device, use this calculator to work out the wattage you're vaping at by putting in the voltage and the ohmage of the clearo : http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms_law_calculator.php


If you get a VW device, just dial in the wattage and away you go.

Everyone has different preferences but I find a range between 8 and 10 watts seems to suit my needs. If you want the vapour to be more thicker and more substantial, use an eliquid with at least 50% VG content and generally, the higher the nicotine content of the juice, the stronger the throat hit, so trying a higher nic content might give you more oomph.