Getting tobacco experience

[GolanT]

Just had a look at your kits online, they both seem to be sub ohm kits, are you sure that you have a 1.3 ohm coil and not a 0.13? For a cigarette experience you are better off with a high resistance, low power device with a 50/50 liquid. Which is why you found it didn't taste right and was harsh. Your device works better with a 70/30 liquid and high power, unfortunately tobacco liquids are more scarce but there are some out there. Good luck and don't give up giving up!

Hi D&D,
Thanks for your posts (I'm in Aus, hence the delay). The coils are definitely 1.3 ohm (I've triple checked, and I'm a sparky). I'll try the 70/30 mix, but I've done that already with the Geekvape, and I was advised by the seller to use 50/50 mix with a 1.3 ohm coil in the Orca. I'll keep trying, thanks again.

 

[GolanT]

Hi @GolanT, I gave up smoking by vaping over 10 years ago and like you I didn`t get on with the tobacco flavours that were about at that time because I was missing the taste of smoke not the taste of tobacco. What helped me stay off the ciggies was to add a little menthol to the baccy liquid and aim more for a Consulate taste.
I agree with the previous post that you should double check your ohmage, if memory serves when I was vaping a 1.3ohm coil a wattage of between 13 and 20 watts was the sweet spot.
It is a good time to switch to vaping at the moment, the market is flooded with good mouth to lung pod systems which can be set up to mimic the experience of smoking until you feel ready to move on to the more usual vape gear, or not, as suits your needs.
The important thing is not to give up just because your first attempt did not give you the satisfaction that you need. There are millions of ex smokers sucking on a myriad of devices containing a myriad different juices without giving smoking a second thought.
The conversion from smoking to vaping is a process and the key is persistence, just dont give up.
Good luck.

Thanks Vince,
It's definitely 1.3 ohm, the wattage is 7-12W (the Orca that is, the Geekvape has variable wattage/resistance, and I can't work out where to start with that one!). Can't stand menthol, I've tried. I need to research lung pod systems, thanks for the tip. And yeah, I'll keep trying, it's like learning a new science! Cheers.

 

[GolanT]

Both the devices you mention look to be for sub-ohm vaping so 50/50 juice won't suit them and 12mg is high for a sub-ohm vape. Black Note juices sold in the UK are I believe all 50/50 and diluting them will definitely impact the flavour. For NETs you could try Juice Cabin as they do them in 70/30 and 60/40.

There are lots of synthetic tobacco juices available so you could try some of those or non-tobacco flavours. As has been said stick at it and good luck with quitting the fags.

Thanks Netvaper. See my previous responses, BTW, what are NET's?

 

[GolanT]

Can I ask what wattage you’ve set?
A1.3 coil with 50-50 juice would, I suggest, be vaped at around 7-15 watts.

Hi Raptor,
Thanks for the help. The Orca has a fixed 1.3 ohm coil, and wattage is rated 7/10/12w. So yeah this matches what you said. The Geekvape is variable wattage, I don't know where to start with the wattage/fluid mix with that one!

 

[GolanT]

Hi @GolanT and welcome

Many on here prefer NET juices (= naturally extracted tobacco). Blacknote is a popular brand, and also El Toro. Personally I don't rate blacknote (but many do) and I haven't tried El Toro.

When I first started vaping I found vape pig to produce the most realistically flavoured eliquids. They actually tasted like smoking a cigarette, as opposed to tasting like the smell of tobacco in a tin... if that makes sense.

Thanks - so that's what NET's are. I'll check out vape pig and NET's.
Good tips, as are all on this thread.
Thanks all! (I'm in Aus, hence the delay)

 

[GolanT]

Hi @GolanT and welcome to the planet.

ive not got the kits you mentioned so can you confirm these are them as the solo plus is a sub ohm kit for higher wattage https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits/vaporesso/sky-solo-plus

same with the geekvape s100 https://www.vapeclub.co.uk/vape-kits/geekvape/geekvape-s100-aegis-solo-2-vape-kit its for sub ohm at higher wattage.

also youve not mention which tank you are using on this mod as it doesnt look like they come with 1.3ohm coils which youve mentioned you are using.


it doesnt matter what mod (battery) you use as long as you keep the wattage low and use a mouth to lung tank.
using a high powered sub ohm kit is the best of both worlds as you can start of with mouth to lung MTL tank just like smoking and then later down the road use a sub ohm tank on the same mod for higher wattage cloud chucking.

as said, youve not mentioned any wattage you are running at.
you have mentioned metallic taste though so this question has to be asked as so many people have made this mistake in the past.
have you got the mod set to wattage/power mode and not TC temperature control mode as TC can only use certain coils that have Ni nickel, Ti titanium and SS stanless steel coils.
i remember back in the day quite a few mentioned a metalic taste and they were using TC by accident.
if you could post a picture of your screen we can clear this up. you may need a couple more posts though before you can post a pic so in the mean time does your screen show numbers like 10W or does it show 220C or 100F (i dont do TC so these are just example numbers).

also the only backy infused flavours ive used are from Manabush which are worth a look https://manabush.com/

Hi DJ,
Firstly maybe in Aus there are different models of the same name, because my Orca vape is this one:
https://www.vaporesso.com/vape-kits/orca-solo-plus
and definitely made with 1.3 ohm coil installed
The big Geekvape unit is up to 100W. No idea how to get the liquid mix and wattage right with this.
Second, what a huge amount of info to absorb! I was an electrician so understand the numbers, but not the 'science' behind all the variables.
Does your site have a specific page where I can learn this science. Actually I love all science so should pick it up eventually.
Thanks again. GT

 

[GolanT]

Another vote for manabush - they're not straight tobacco flavours, but some are very tobaccoey - The Leaf, Twisted Leaf, Firewater and Indigene ranges will all give you that tobacco satisfaction

Thanks again MHL. Do these actually contain nicotine? That's what I need to get off the cigs.

 

[John R Phillips]

If you are is Aus(trailia), afaik, you can only get nicotine liquid on prescription
Vaping, under a no-nicotine regime, may work/help with breaking the habits around smoking but you’ll probably need nicotine to (help) break the addiction.
I guess you need to research how to get nicotine liquid where you are.
Good luck

 

[MrDJ]

AHH, your in Australia. This is a UK forum so majority of members are from UK so links to juice sites won't help much as if as said you can only get nicotine on prescription then importing juice must be almost impossible.
Maybe @Tazz can advise as he's from your side of the world.
Stick around and Good luck with your search.

 

[RAPTOREX]

Hi Raptor,
Thanks for the help. The Orca has a fixed 1.3 ohm coil, and wattage is rated 7/10/12w. So yeah this matches what you said. The Geekvape is variable wattage, I don't know where to start with the wattage/fluid mix with that one!

I hear you. It’s a steep hill, at first. But don’t worry.

you have a new machine. But the above rules still remain.
I’d tend to look at what wattage the coil is rated. Then, however big or small the coils resistance may be. I start at a low wattage and slowly move up. This does two things:
Firstly, by moving slowly up, you will find you own sweet spot. (One man’s perfect vape often wouldn’t suit another. There’s no right or wrong wattage to vape at.)
Secondly it helps break in the coil. And, whilst there’s no guarantee, this makes coils last a little longer.
I’ve vapes coils rated @ 40-80w, quite happily at 25-30w. So, within reason, it really is up to you.

something else to think on too. The AFC ( air flow control) adjusting this is often the secret to a good vape. So along with the wattage you need to adjust the amount of air getting to the coil.
for me anyway, this is harder to explain. The reality is far less complex than it looks written down.
I use a simple rule. If you draw on the tank and it feels just like taking a deep breath, you will probably need to close the afc down an bit. If drawing on the tank leaves you out of breath and purple, you’ll probably need to open it up, a bit.
you’ll find a draw that suits you. And, when you find your wattage nirvana, all you’ll need to do is a bit of tinkering.

I could go on for hours with the small points. But I don’t want you to fall asleep half way through.