Getting tobacco experience

[MHL]

Thanks again MHL. Do these actually contain nicotine? That's what I need to get off the cigs.

No problem. Some do, some don't, you'll need to check. In the UK at least, 10ml bottles ususally contain nicotine, the amount is specified. But you can't legally sell nicotine containing liquid in bigger bottles, so you often see larger quantities or "shortfills" that come without nicotne too.

 

[Deadanddripping]

I don't think it's been stated but the general rule of thumb is anything over 1 ohm is Mouth to lung vaping, small amounts of vapour with a higher nicotine 50/50 liquid and low power. Inhale like a cigarette, sucked into mouth and then inhaled.

Coils under 1 ohm are for Direct To Lung vaping, large amounts of vapour with low nicotine 70/30 liquid with a higher wattage. You don't need as much nicotine because you get masses of clouds but it all evens out.

Air flow basics are a closed or small hole concentrates the vapour in the coil, meaning small clouds stronger flavour. Bigger hole means more air, more cloud, less flavour.

Then I follow the advice of starting off low power for a few puffs and work your way up as suggested above.

Lastly, if you aren't getting flavour, leave the liquid a few weeks and try again. They seem to get stronger with time and I have started buying for a month ahead.

Hope this helps.

 

[Netvaper]

It won't do it any harm but Black Note is ready to vape without steeping.

 

[Netvaper]

Ah Australia, not sure what you can do about that as presumably you can't import nicotine or juice containing nicotine.

Maybe look at the The Vaping Fossil in Oz. They used to make NETs but have been forced to stop as their juice was found to contain residual traces of nicotine, less than 0.01%, but they do offer zero nicotine synthetic tobacco flavoured juice.

 

[John R Phillips]

It won't do it any harm but Black Note is ready to vape without steeping.

Another thumbs-up for Black Note. Not much help if you are in Oz, but it’s a very nice baccy, and the only one I’ve found that I like - albeit at a premium pice

 

[GolanT]

If you are is Aus(trailia), afaik, you can only get nicotine liquid on prescription
Vaping, under a no-nicotine regime, may work/help with breaking the habits around smoking but you’ll probably need nicotine to (help) break the addiction.
I guess you need to research how to get nicotine liquid where you are.
Good luck

Yeah, I've got a prescription, but it's still hard to find it here. My first batch I got from NZ, where's its legal & shipping costs OK

 

[GolanT]

I don't think it's been stated but the general rule of thumb is anything over 1 ohm is Mouth to lung vaping, small amounts of vapour with a higher nicotine 50/50 liquid and low power. Inhale like a cigarette, sucked into mouth and then inhaled.

Coils under 1 ohm are for Direct To Lung vaping, large amounts of vapour with low nicotine 70/30 liquid with a higher wattage. You don't need as much nicotine because you get masses of clouds but it all evens out.

Air flow basics are a closed or small hole concentrates the vapour in the coil, meaning small clouds stronger flavour. Bigger hole means more air, more cloud, less flavour.

Then I follow the advice of starting off low power for a few puffs and work your way up as suggested above.

Lastly, if you aren't getting flavour, leave the liquid a few weeks and try again. They seem to get stronger with time and I have started buying for a month ahead.

Hope this helps.

Thanks again,
Actually I have left the fluid for a few weeks between trying, afraid it didn't change anything for me. Re: direct to lung, and a large cloud, I've seen that with other vapers but also heard these vapes can give you 'popcorn lung', supposedly not good. Or do you know if this just happens with the flavored vapes, not just nico?

 

[GolanT]

I hear you. It’s a steep hill, at first. But don’t worry.

you have a new machine. But the above rules still remain.
I’d tend to look at what wattage the coil is rated. Then, however big or small the coils resistance may be. I start at a low wattage and slowly move up. This does two things:
Firstly, by moving slowly up, you will find you own sweet spot. (One man’s perfect vape often wouldn’t suit another. There’s no right or wrong wattage to vape at.)
Secondly it helps break in the coil. And, whilst there’s no guarantee, this makes coils last a little longer.
I’ve vapes coils rated @ 40-80w, quite happily at 25-30w. So, within reason, it really is up to you.

something else to think on too. The AFC ( air flow control) adjusting this is often the secret to a good vape. So along with the wattage you need to adjust the amount of air getting to the coil.
for me anyway, this is harder to explain. The reality is far less complex than it looks written down.
I use a simple rule. If you draw on the tank and it feels just like taking a deep breath, you will probably need to close the afc down an bit. If drawing on the tank leaves you out of breath and purple, you’ll probably need to open it up, a bit.
you’ll find a draw that suits you. And, when you find your wattage nirvana, all you’ll need to do is a bit of tinkering.

I could go on for hours with the small points. But I don’t want you to fall asleep half way through.

Thanks Raptor,

Yes, I have been tinkering with the AFC on both vapes. Didn't help but I'll try your suggestion re: increasing wattage slowly in the Geekvape.I tried this in the past but can only try again. Cheers.

 

[John R Phillips]

Not sure how the prescription thing works - does it allow you to buy eliquids with nicotine, or import them??
Anyway..
I’d suggest going back to basics/square one....
Put in a new coil (1.3) because with your previous usage you may have stuffed it.
Use 50/50 juice (1.3 will struggle with 70/30)
Use a low wattage to break the coil in and see how it goes from there.
The coil may take a tankful or two before it really starts to work for you.
I’d knock the sub-ohm idea completely on the head for the moment. The 1.3/low wattage set up it fine for MTL, and that’s what smoking is. You need to “replicate” that to get off the ciggies.
Come back to sub-ohm once you’ve kicked the cigs into touch and it’s something you might want to explore. Many people are quite content with MTL
Whilst I (& others) rate Black Note, it doesn’t suit everyone. Can you not use your prescription to get non-tobacco flavoured juices, but still containing nicotine? The nicotine itself is tasteless.

 

[Tazz]

Thanks again,
Actually I have left the fluid for a few weeks between trying, afraid it didn't change anything for me. Re: direct to lung, and a large cloud, I've seen that with other vapers but also heard these vapes can give you 'popcorn lung', supposedly not good. Or do you know if this just happens with the flavored vapes, not just nico?

Hi mate. Popcorn lung is stupid scare stuff from long ago.
Forget about it.
Not sure what you are chasing.
Are you after a direct to lung hit like having a bong, straight in breath, or cigarettes style?
You got on to NZ with nic, thats the way, they look after us here.
Can you name your style, Direct to Lung (bong style) or Mouth to Lung cig style.
A good vape supply here is Vapoureyes. They are here in Oz and also NZ. Another good one is The Steamery. Best advice you would probably get is Vapoureyes. They have been in the game for years and always looked after me. Look out for their end of financial years sales, you can get some crazy deals with them. I stock up for each year from those sales. Coils, concentrates, batteries the lot. The Steamery are good too.
Good luck mate.