I heard rumour, govs secretly passing law.

[Reevo]

lol you've opened a can of worms now! Feel the force Mr Yoda, it not strong over there, only here will fortune good on you. lol

 

[Warlordxxx]

No need to regret opening the thread - This as far as i can tell at the moment is only in the rumor stages - But for the sake of full disclosure on what's being discussed, the original post is as follows...

Posted by Marlowejames@UKV: Rumours are filtering through via Twitter that both flavours and nicotine strengths limits may be under threat.

I've always felt that the 30mg limit was always the crucial aspect of keeping e-cigs effective as a non medical product. If a far lower limit is proposed, say 10-12mg, than e-cigs as we know them will be history. It appears that flavours may also be under attack.


The key question will be are MEPs willing and prepared to hold fast with e-cigs if this means that the TPD as a whole won't get passed. I really hope that the negotiating team are on the ball and propose the alternative option of removing e-cigs from the whole TPD as I'm fearful that if e-cigs become the primary focus of whether the TPD either gets passed before Xmas that many MEPs who voted for 170 will have second thoughts.








Could be dark times ahead!

And from a few minutes lurking and looking here and there i'm pretty sure it's referring to this https://twitter.com/GerryStimson/status/401016891583770624

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

i found an article in financial times - LINK http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dcde108e-47d3-11e3-b1c4-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2keKtkfM7

 

[Fleabag]

i found an article in financial times - LINK http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/dcde108e-47d3-11e3-b1c4-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2keKtkfM7

I can't access that without subscribing to FT online

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

I can't access that without subscribing to FT online

strange - want me to copy and paste the article for you?

 

[Gonloopy]

Please! I can get to the page, but can't see the article.....

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

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The growing popularity of e-cigarettes has left regulators in a pickle.
E-cigarettes have come a long way since the nattily named “Electro Fag” first appeared on the market almost a decade ago.
E-cigarette sales are now $2bn globally – a figure that will jump 50 per cent again in 2013, according to Canaccord. In the US, consumption of e-cigarettes could overtake conventional tobacco within a decade, says Wells Fargo.

Their sudden popularity has left regulators with a conundrum: how do you categorise them?
Although called an e-cigarette, they contain no tobacco. Instead users inhale nicotine vapour, rather than smoke. While some use them to quit, others “vape” by choice.
Regulators have generally opted for one of three options: treat them as tobacco, regulate them as medicines or – in a handful of countries – ban them.
In the UK, any electronic cigarette will have to be regulated as a medicine from 2016 – opening the possibility of large tobacco companies who have launched e-cigarettes, such as British American Tobacco, supplying medicinal products.
It looked like the EU would go down a similar route, but MEPs opted not to regulate them as medical products after campaigners argued that doing so would limit their popularity.
“This has disrupted what was a fairly clear policy direction from the UK government,” says Clive Bates, a former director of ASH, the antismoking group. The UK government could, however, still go it alone on medicinal regulation.
The confusion has left e-cigarette companies – often small, private businesses – having to plan for regulation as both a medicinal product and a lifestyle one.
“It comes with a huge expense,” says Taz Sheikh, co-founder of UK e-cigarette group Gamucci. “We may well be spending a lot of money in getting our facility ready [to pass medicinal regulations], which could be used for other bits, such as marketing.”
In the US, the Food and Drug Administration is preparing regulations of the growing electronic category. Analysts say those could include restrictions on online sales, sales to minors and advertising as well as ingredient and manufacturing standards. The industry is still awaiting proposed rules that were expected to be published for public comment first in April, then delayed until October, and now expected to appear before the end of the year. But it would be several years before they went into effect.
Andries Verleur, chief executive of Miami-based electronic cigarette maker V2 Cigs, is expanding his business in South America and Europe, arguing that geographic diversification can provide a “regulatory hedge”.
“Most of the companies are trying to diversify because the regulatory environment is a coin flip,” he said.
Choosing the wrong side on the toss could be fatal: in Brazil, Norway and Singapore e-cigarettes are banned, sending e-cigarette sales up in smoke – or vapour.

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

sorry guys not very well formatted but best i can do

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

its really gonna suck balls if this does happen it'll just be like being back on fags again overpriced mass produced crap made in a lab instead of the good quality homemade juices we get from the likes of @MrKraken and @MittenKitten and @bestcigliquid Tmax and mrslord n co

 

[Fleabag]

sorry guys not very well formatted but best i can do

No problem with it at all - thanks for that