I'm now a vaper not a smoker, or am I ?

[Gonloopy]

On your medical records if you have not had a cigarette for 12 months, - then they will classify you as a non smoker.....

 

[HAZZA1962]

Welcome to the Planet!!! My Doctors got me down as a non smoker now!!! He rang me to ask why I haven't been to for an Asthma check up for over Twelve Months, and I told him I've still got the same Inhaler I got from him Fourteen Months ago and its Three Quarters full!!!

 

[AndyC1971]

As others have said, if you're not smoking you're not a smoker. However I still regard myself as a smoker in some ways.

I have not smoked real tobacco, with the exception of the odd blip (last one over two years ago), for three and a half years and am firmly a Vaper.

But I've also always felt that without ecigs ....I would be smoking. Deep down the name still fits psychologically if not actually. Once a smoker, always a smoker etc. I also empathise with smokers. The vilification , the demonisation, the diseased lepers as they have become to the nanny state and high ground moralists, to be 'treated' with 'medicine', mocked and pitied. As a life long stubborn smoker I still defend anyone's right to do what they want with their bodies.

Early in the life of this forum I posted a poll below. I said then that as time went on I may change my view as Vaping became mainstream. At the time of doing the poll there were some friends of mine who used the term E-smoker which I didn't care for much but sort of got where they were coming from. Hence the poll. It hasn't had much support ever since and probably rightly too as we distance ourselves from smoking more and more

Take a look at the thread. It may interest you

http://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/f...LL-E-smoker-or-Vaper?highlight=E-smoker+Vaper

+1, I totally agree with this. In certain circumstances, I ill vape away in the 'smokers area' and will still defend a smokers right to smoke against the antis.

I would never of found vaping, if I had not smoked, and whilst I rather I never stated smoking, I cant change history.

It is weird, at work and medically I am classed as a non smoker. Insurance wise, I am classed as a smoker, although its now 12 months since my last cigarette!

I am going to fight this decision now I have reached this milestone

 

[Gilliandrea]

to POTV

My viewpoint is the same as @Mark and very eloquently said/typed

 

[Reevo]

Welcome to the forum. Another Leicester Vaper! Check out the Leicester meet thread, your more than welcome to "come on down". We don't bite (just watch out for ElsaBubs hes a bit strange lol).
http://www.planetofthevapes.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/27784-Leicester-meet-01-03-2014

 

[man_d]

...We don't bite..

Speak for yourself

 

[ShadowBumble]

It is weird, at work and medically I am classed as a non smoker. Insurance wise, I am classed as a smoker, although its now 12 months since my last cigarette!

I am going to fight this decision now I have reached this milestone

Normally insurrance companies should decide that after 12 months of quitting, you would be classified as a non smoker, but i believe age has something to do with it also. For example my insurrance company only requires me to sign a paper to be classified as non smoker ( after a year that is ), see it as a letter of intent

 

[AndyC1971]

Normally insurrance companies should decide that after 12 months of quitting, you would be classified as a non smoker, but i believe age has something to do with it also. For example my insurrance company only requires me to sign a paper to be classified as non smoker ( after a year that is ), see it as a letter of intent

That is correct, but if you die of a smoking related disease, and they request further investigation, they can refuse to pay out. Now I have spoken to my insurance company at great length, and stated if they were to 'blood test' me now, I would have high nicotine levels, but would have no other chemicals associated with smoking in my system, so where would I stand??

The best answer I can get is 'I dont know' along with 'we would probably not pay out'. So at present, I have to stay at a smoker, so there would be a payout upon my death, I cant take the risk that my kids wouldnt be provided for financially, but I do feel in my heart that it is wrong, hence why I am fighting it, and prepared to continue to do so, until I am deemed a non smoker.

 

[ShadowBumble]

That is correct, but if you die of a smoking related disease, and they request further investigation, they can refuse to pay out. Now I have spoken to my insurance company at great length, and stated if they were to 'blood test' me now, I would have high nicotine levels, but would have no other chemicals associated with smoking in my system, so where would I stand??

I feel exactly what you say, indeed it appears that such a requirement is not stated in my official documents ( but i live in another country ) since the "smoking related disease" i near impossble to prove for them nor can they force ( unless stated in the contracts and life insurrance ) your family to agree on an autopsy to determine if the disease was for a fact comming without a doubt from smoking habbits.

I cant take the risk that my kids wouldnt be provided for financially, but I do feel in my heart that it is wrong, hence why I am fighting it, and prepared to continue to do so, until I am deemed a non smoker.

And this will be the main reason, no person would be willing to accept that risc for the point of a discussion and classification. In the Netherlands the only difference between a smoker and non smoker insurrance is that the monthly fee for a non smoker is around 5 Euro's cheaper, but coverage of the insurance is exactly the same.

 

[vaporsizer]

That is correct, but if you die of a smoking related disease, and they request further investigation, they can refuse to pay out. Now I have spoken to my insurance company at great length, and stated if they were to 'blood test' me now, I would have high nicotine levels, but would have no other chemicals associated with smoking in my system, so where would I stand??

The best answer I can get is 'I dont know' along with 'we would probably not pay out'. So at present, I have to stay at a smoker, so there would be a payout upon my death, I cant take the risk that my kids wouldnt be provided for financially, but I do feel in my heart that it is wrong, hence why I am fighting it, and prepared to continue to do so, until I am deemed a non smoker.

I have a similar gripe with my own life insurance policy & i don't expect the companies to have caught up yet with vaping. Perhaps in a few years there will be a sub catagory for us. You know what will swing don't you ? When they get wind of it & after official lab test results show the actual properties & effects of vaping they will have something to work with & can then use it to their advantage to entice new customers.
The first life insurance company to do it will say "We offer a discount if you are an ex smoker of 12 months or more & use an electronic cigarette" or words to that effect. Yup, when it comes down to money they will think something up.
On a similar note, with house insurance it ought to make a difference. No more naked flames & all that.

I see this thread is a bit hijacked , sorry for reinforcing that.