Some say it is, others say it isn't. I'm still getting a lot of burnt/rubber tastes on nearly all my tanks, off and on. Started using higher pg last few weeks and it got better, but still get it every few tanks. Tried dry burning 3 times with an iclear 16, didn't work or maybe I didn't do it long enough. Some say dry burning is not needed or shouldn't even be done? Is washing tanks coils and wicks under a hot tap enough? Thanks...
Is dry burning really necessary?
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A red hot coil will not affect your silica but can solidify impurities that have caused bad flavours. It can also show up hot spots that can cause burning whilst vaping, dry your wicks after washing super fast and quickly oxidise your new coils to further reduce metallic flavours which some are sensitive to. Whether this leaves behind anything else you don't want isn't for me to say. I dry burn my silica coils after a good wash, for all of the above and find that it does what I want it to.
Make sure to give your coil a sharp blow after dry burning to remove stubborn dried impurities. The only time dry burning can cause an immediate problem that I know of is if it gets very hot whilst in close contact to a rubber bung or seal or if is touching your eye ball or such like whilst you're doing it. Any additions to this dry burning danger list is welcomed..
I have noticed you have complained of bad flavours a few times. Have you A) tried watering your liquids down a touch B) raised the resistance of your coils/lowered voltage of battery? If you try to push any device you will eventually find its limit.
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I dry burn mine after washing as you do. If you dont your juice is watered down for a while before the wicks take up the flavour.
Have you got into dripping yet?
Also wicking / coiling rebuilding?
If not its worth considering as you can tailor your output to your juices.
Just an idea x
Have you got into dripping yet?
Also wicking / coiling rebuilding?
If not its worth considering as you can tailor your output to your juices.
Just an idea x
Thanks for info buddy , I have some iclear 16s, iclear 30s and some mini protanks that are gunged up I will be dry burning a whole lot today on my MVP as I took them apart last night and wick top and coils are BLACK, just have to watch out I don't burn any seals or rubber parts, watched a few YT vids last night on how to do it looks easy. Also how would I water down my liquids? Distilled water? I am using higher vg which clogs wicks up big time, but I also have 50/50 and higher pg ratios as well, so that can't be the only prob. My resistance is usually showing at about 2.2ohms average I vape on about 6watts average.
Would like to Pepper but dont think i have the time or patience, not that im that busy but not focused enough to be doing that all day. Any new kit?
RicModMaker
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I dry burn after my tank runs out and give it a good blow and you'd be surprised at the amount of build up that burns off. It makes the next tank taste better. Def worth doing in my opinion as sweet juices cake up quite quickly.
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No you don't have to dry burn. the alternative is to throw the coil in the bin and either build a new one or replace it with a stock one.
When you use an e-cig the coil heats up hot enough to rapidly boil the e-liquid that's stored in the wick and turn it into vapour, the wick delivers more liquid to the coil so the process is continuous.
The black gunk is caused by the coil being too hot for the liquid and instead of turning into vapour the liquid burns and sticks onto the coil and wick.
This gunk acts as an insulating layer and as it builds up the outside surface of the coil gets cooler and cooler. The gunk is basically a layer of carbon and carbon is a good insulator. The coil itself is still getting as hot as ever it was, it's just shielded by all this gunk so the bit that touches the liquid, the outside surface, is getting cooler.
Most people turn up the power when they notice the vape isn't as good a it used to be. While this fixes that, what is going on is you're making the inside of the coil even hotter. The gunk can't move anywhere as it's stuck to the coil and it gets burnt even more.
Eventually there is so much gunk on the coil that it can't transfer enough heat to vapourise enough of the liquid that the wick is providing. The whole thing floods (especially bad on a bottom coil device) and the extra liquid that the coil is swimming in dissolves off some of the burnt gunk, which gets into the liquid and you get a burnt taste. As well as that if you turn up the power then that extra heat has to go somewhere and it tends to go inside rather than outside. The base of the tank and the top of the battery will get a little warmer than normal and this can lead to rubbery grommets getting hotter than they should and maybe even burning.
It's a double whammy.
Dry burning gets rid of the gunk, by burning it off completely and ideally you should dry burn every other tank full to keep the coil in good condition. Sometimes if the gunk gets too burnt on then no amount of dry burning will help and you just need to replace it. the process also takes longer the more gunk there is, so it's a good plan to do it more frequently. Some liquids are more prone to gunking up than others, especially natural extract tobacco types of liquids.
To Dry Burn:
Take your tank apart so you just have the base of the tank with the coil attached and can see the coil itself. Rinse off excess e-liquid.
Hold the fire button and heat up the coil till it glows orange. Release the button and blow over the coil.
The idea here is to burn the gunk to ash and then blow it off the coil. The coil and the silica wick can get to over 1000C before they burn. You're only burning the gunk doing this.
Keep pulsing the coil and blowing off the residue till the wick is white(ish) and the coil is shiny. you can also you a soft bristled brush to help remove the ash.
You cannot dry burn aspire heads, it ruins them. You also cannot dry burn cotton wicks (they'll catch fire) though you can and should remove the cotton wick and dry burn clean the naked coil when you rewick them.
Dry burning silica wicks though will prolong the life of the head and give you a much better, less prone to flooding, less burnt tasting vape.
When you use an e-cig the coil heats up hot enough to rapidly boil the e-liquid that's stored in the wick and turn it into vapour, the wick delivers more liquid to the coil so the process is continuous.
The black gunk is caused by the coil being too hot for the liquid and instead of turning into vapour the liquid burns and sticks onto the coil and wick.
This gunk acts as an insulating layer and as it builds up the outside surface of the coil gets cooler and cooler. The gunk is basically a layer of carbon and carbon is a good insulator. The coil itself is still getting as hot as ever it was, it's just shielded by all this gunk so the bit that touches the liquid, the outside surface, is getting cooler.
Most people turn up the power when they notice the vape isn't as good a it used to be. While this fixes that, what is going on is you're making the inside of the coil even hotter. The gunk can't move anywhere as it's stuck to the coil and it gets burnt even more.
Eventually there is so much gunk on the coil that it can't transfer enough heat to vapourise enough of the liquid that the wick is providing. The whole thing floods (especially bad on a bottom coil device) and the extra liquid that the coil is swimming in dissolves off some of the burnt gunk, which gets into the liquid and you get a burnt taste. As well as that if you turn up the power then that extra heat has to go somewhere and it tends to go inside rather than outside. The base of the tank and the top of the battery will get a little warmer than normal and this can lead to rubbery grommets getting hotter than they should and maybe even burning.
It's a double whammy.
Dry burning gets rid of the gunk, by burning it off completely and ideally you should dry burn every other tank full to keep the coil in good condition. Sometimes if the gunk gets too burnt on then no amount of dry burning will help and you just need to replace it. the process also takes longer the more gunk there is, so it's a good plan to do it more frequently. Some liquids are more prone to gunking up than others, especially natural extract tobacco types of liquids.
To Dry Burn:
Take your tank apart so you just have the base of the tank with the coil attached and can see the coil itself. Rinse off excess e-liquid.
Hold the fire button and heat up the coil till it glows orange. Release the button and blow over the coil.
The idea here is to burn the gunk to ash and then blow it off the coil. The coil and the silica wick can get to over 1000C before they burn. You're only burning the gunk doing this.
Keep pulsing the coil and blowing off the residue till the wick is white(ish) and the coil is shiny. you can also you a soft bristled brush to help remove the ash.
You cannot dry burn aspire heads, it ruins them. You also cannot dry burn cotton wicks (they'll catch fire) though you can and should remove the cotton wick and dry burn clean the naked coil when you rewick them.
Dry burning silica wicks though will prolong the life of the head and give you a much better, less prone to flooding, less burnt tasting vape.
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I have always used the dry burn after washing out a tank,but with cotton wool a dry burn isn't advisable(cotton burns)and mesh(remove mesh,cook on gas stove for a minute,replace)then got into dripping and Voodoo Wool wicks.This stuff holds so much juice it's like using a small tank type genny atty lol.Vape until wick is almost dry,add new flavour & carry on.
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Too much to list!
Take on the advice and keep trying. It will work itself out
You could get a vivi nova and drop replacement wicks on
Too much to list!
Take on the advice and keep trying. It will work itself out
You could get a vivi nova and drop replacement wicks on
So you have become a true dedicated Shinyitis Follower? hehe (me too)
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