Juice colourant

[JosefK]

Different countries, different rules, different laws... 'deemed' dangerous in one country and not in another... who's to say one is right and the other wrong? Brazil bans e-cigs. Are they right to do so?

Some of the paragraphs on that site sound suspiciously like the formaldehyde / oil / antifreeze comments that we're so familiar with, at least to me...

I'm not advocating anything rampant or deadly here, nor encouraging people to walk barefoot over red hot coals, so a little perspective is required.

'Mainlining tar straight to the lungs' is hardly the same as using minute quantities (less than .1% by volume, though I'll have to experiment with this to be certain) of colourings that derive from coal-tar (for example, though amongst others) in e-liquid.

Personal responsibility. It's where it's at. Life is risk. The key is to minimise it. Research = informed decision.

 

[KulrMeStoopid]

Different countries, different rules, different laws... 'deemed' dangerous in one country and not in another... who's to say one is right and the other wrong? Brazil bans e-cigs. Are they right to do so?

Some of the paragraphs on that site sound suspiciously like the formaldehyde / oil / antifreeze comments that we're so familiar with, at least to me...

I'm not advocating anything rampant or deadly here, nor encouraging people to walk barefoot over red hot coals, so a little perspective is required.

'Mainlining tar straight to the lungs' is hardly the same as using minute quantities (less than .1% by volume, though I'll have to experiment with this to be certain) of colourings that derive from coal-tar (for example, though amongst others) in e-liquid.

Personal responsibility. It's where it's at. Life is risk. The key is to minimise it. Research = informed decision.

You and I are obviously always going to have to agree to disagree. Not sure what it is about me, but you seem to get really defensive if and when I do respond to a post/thread you are involved in.

 

[Phantom Diablo]

one question i will ask though.. are any eliquid concenrates coloured ( i would assume so) we talk about the flavourings and we know that liquids are made up of nicotine, PG and VG all heavily researched and clinically safe . but the flavours i really know little about.
if i was to buy for istance a strawberry concentrate.. and it arrives and its red in colour is that a natural red? or a synthetic) and then what are the ingredients of concentrates?
you could have a juice with 5 different blended flavours. but as the ingredients of those arent listed and as ive never purchased concentrates yet.. what are they made of?

only ask because A: i plan to make my own soon
B: as sure as anything once the EU cant prove anything is bad in pg. vg and nic they'll be starting on the flavourings next

 

[KulrMeStoopid]

one question i will ask though.. are any eliquid concenrates coloured ( i would assume so) we talk about the flavourings and we know that liquids are made up of nicotine, PG and VG all heavily researched and clinically safe . but the flavours i really know little about.
if i was to buy for istance a strawberry concentrate.. and it arrives and its red in colour is that a natural red? or a synthetic) and then what are the ingredients of concentrates?
you could have a juice with 5 different blended flavours. but as the ingredients of those arent listed and as ive never purchased concentrates yet.. what are they made of?

only ask because A: i plan to make my own soon
B: as sure as anything once the EU cant prove anything is bad in pg. vg and nic they'll be starting on the flavourings next

Unless the flavours are natural extract, they are synthetic. Most synthetic flavours dont contain oils, but the natural extracts can.

Most FC's have natural colouring as far as I know. Most of the ingredients are chemical compounds with names that are impossible to pronounce and probably have very little research into their safety.

All in all at the end of the day we have to weigh our options here...smoke with 4,000 plus chemcials which gives us a 50% chance of dying from smoking related illnesses, or vape and take the miniscule risk backed up to 1,000 times safer than smoking facts...

 

[Phantom Diablo]

yep indeed,, just wish the bloody eu would see it that way.. instead they are hell bent in protecting the bloody stinkies instead and killing off everyone just so they can live in there big country houses paid for by smokers tax

 

[JosefK]

KulrMeStoopid It's nothing personal... nor defensive...

Had you said, say, that it would be wise to identify the ingredients of colourings and be cautious... then I'd have nodded and gone on my merry way, possibly even with a LIKE hit - which I am so crap as to often forget to do... a merry way which at the moment is absinthe-based (thanks to some excellent Decadent Vapours flavourings that, coincidentally, look to possibly include unidentified colouring)... but you didn't... you took the wild OTT approach (IMO, of course), which I disagree with. I could have disagreed with your comment silently, naturally... but this is a forum

Agreeing to disagree is brill, by the way... though I think I am genetically-disposed to support an opinion until convinced otherwise. I know this often imbues my comments and posts with a certain... tone... but hey, it's just me and I mean nothing by it.

 

[KulrMeStoopid]

Its the American in me, ya know, over dramatizing and just being obnoxious

 

[Phantom Diablo]

Its the American in me, ya know, over dramatizing and just being obnoxious

ya damn yankie

 

[KulrMeStoopid]

ya damn yankie

http://youtu.be/2R1jiVcIGcg

 

[Phantom Diablo]

Kms true profile pic!

unusual mod you have there!