Labour Pains - Last push for #LordsVapeVote

[SirLugg]

@SirLugg Naz Shah doesn't reply even if you do tag her, I can't talk as me on twitter for obvious reasons

I'm confused so badly I'm crawling inside myself.
Thanks. I think. I'm just baiting my MP now [emoji6]

 

[Diche]

I'm confused so badly I'm crawling inside myself.
Thanks. I think. I'm just baiting my MP now [emoji6]

Your confused?!? I'm the one posting on 3 different mediums with three different names lol. A few of the team post on Twitter, but 99% of the time if you get a reply it is me. Sometimes me posting something we have agreed on, but generally me doing the typing.

 

[SirLugg]

Your confused?!? I'm the one posting on 3 different mediums with three different names lol. A few of the team post on Twitter, but 99% of the time if you get a reply it is me. Sometimes me posting something we have agreed on, but generally me doing the typing.

Gotcha. Thank you ma'am.
I've got everything crossed but this Alexander email has made me inadvertently puff out my chest again. I'm hoping her opinion is isolated as the remaining 5 plus Corbyn seem awful quiet.

 

[mannikon]

Parliamentary Guide to Proceedings:

" ... an amendment or motion may be moved regretting some aspect of a statutory instrument but in no way requiring the government to take action. This provides an opportunity for critical views to appear on the order paper and be voted upon which would otherwise simply be voiced in the debate. Such motions are invitations to the House to put on record a particular point of view. Even if carried, the motion or amendment has no practical effect ..."

 

[SirLugg]

Parliamentary Guide to Proceedings:

" ... an amendment or motion may be moved regretting some aspect of a statutory instrument but in no way requiring the government to take action. This provides an opportunity for critical views to appear on the order paper and be voted upon which would otherwise simply be voiced in the debate. Such motions are invitations to the House to put on record a particular point of view. Even if carried, the motion or amendment has no practical effect ..."

Exactly. The regret motions are a distraction. Nothing more.

 

[Diche]

Gotcha. Thank you ma'am.
I've got everything crossed but this Alexander email has made me inadvertently puff out my chest again. I'm hoping her opinion is isolated as the remaining 5 plus Corbyn seem awful quiet.

I'm not a ma'am, I am a vaper same as every other bugger here. derringer and smpl combo (clone) with standard dual coils at 0.65ohms and some rather tasty blackpowder purchased from @PlumeBlu at Vape Collective the other weekend, I just happen to have got myself involved in politics. Bloody vaping, look where it has got me lol

 

[SirLugg]

I'm not a ma'am, I am a vaper same as every other bugger here. derringer and smpl combo (clone) with standard dual coils at 0.65ohms and some rather tasty blackpowder purchased from @PlumeBlu at Vape Collective the other weekend, I just happen to have got myself involved in politics. Bloody vaping, look where it has got me lol

Well you know your onions, and as I'm as blunt as they come I reserve Sir and ma'am for people I have a good amount of respect for.
So consider yourself reverred. You're doing a sterling job

 

[Diche]

Parliamentary Guide to Proceedings:

" ... an amendment or motion may be moved regretting some aspect of a statutory instrument but in no way requiring the government to take action. This provides an opportunity for critical views to appear on the order paper and be voted upon which would otherwise simply be voiced in the debate. Such motions are invitations to the House to put on record a particular point of view. Even if carried, the motion or amendment has no practical effect ..."

Yep, when the ViP team first saw the new motions last night we were pleased, rapidly followed by deep suspicion. Clearly Lord Hunt is going to be in favour of keeping the bill in it's current form, he certainly was in the debate. Baroness Walmsley also has a history of being less than amicable on the subject of vaping. It was a distinct possibility that these were a distraction put in place to allow the Lords to show disapproval and yet keep the bill intact. I think the wording of Heidi's letter confirms that.

 

[mannikon]

Yep, when the ViP team first saw the new motions last night we were pleased, rapidly followed by deep suspicion. Clearly Lord Hunt is going to be in favour of keeping the bill in it's current form, he certainly was in the debate. Baroness Walmsley also has a history of being less than amicable on the subject of vaping. It was a distinct possibility that these were a distraction put in place to allow the Lords to show disapproval and yet keep the bill intact. I think the wording of Heidi's letter confirms that.

Very likely.

 

[Diche]

All the reports we are getting are saying that it is Labour that are most against the alteration of the regulations, and ASH seems to have been playing a significant role it that, hence the move on Friday to targeting the Labour Lords as our prime target as well as assisting Abzed in their drive to get letters written to the Shadow Health team.

At last report Lord Callanan was still holding firm on his fatal motion, and that is the motion we need to be supporting, it is the only one that gives us anything we want. The letters are having a significant effect. If they weren't we wouldn't be seeing two new motions of 'regret' and an MP writing to people not in her constituency. Every letter counts