Lockdown V3

[Simon G]

Especially the comments made about the negativness from the media and the stupidity from some of the general public.

The media have been awful all the way through this.... they just can't help themselves shit stirring. I turned off months ago.

Nice to see you here and sorry for your loss, I have a good friend ill with it right now.

 

[Richard Winter]

The media have been awful all the way through this.... they just can't help themselves shit stirring. I turned off months ago.

Nice to see you here and sorry for your loss, I have a good friend ill with it right now.

Sorry to hear about your friend. Hopefully ur friend will come through it ok.
I stopped listening to the news as I couldn't believe how they reported all the negativeness and never mentioned the good things being done. I honestly believe it wouldn't matter who was in power. When I compare what's being done in the UK to a lot of other places around the world it's not all doom and gloom.

 

[Richard Winter]

Sorry for the loss of your friend fella,
the positives you are hearing is Boris once again promising stuff, what he promises and what gets delivered are two different things, this is fact and has been proven time and time again, it's not people being negative, it's a fact that people have been let down by his promises before during this pandemic.

Thanks mate. I dont disagree but give them their due for setting ambitious goals.

 

[Enoch]

I still think the lack of trust in the government is never really mentioned in the discussion about following rules.

It's not an easy job managing a pandemic but when advice is ignored for weeks or situations change within 24 hours with a clear negative effect as a result, perhaps part of the problem is how some people see the advice given to them?

I remember a cashier in Asda once told me she was going out on holiday because the government are fine to do it, she was easily late 50s / early 60s as well.

I haven't really gone anywhere or done anything personally and even avoided going into town for shopping, think I've been twice since march.

But the message the government sends by the way they have approached this does have an impact on people. Sending kids to school for 1 day, implementing rule changes within days of each other without seeing if the first ones worked, working on a reactionary basis etc.

Perhaps more people ignore the government rules because the government appears to not be clear in what to actually do?

After all it has been shown it is fine for science officers/ MPs/ chief advisors / prime minister's family are fine to bend the rules to suit their own needs. Are you really surprised others have copied such behaviour?

 

[HAZZA1962]

I still think the lack of trust in the government is never really mentioned in the discussion about following rules.

It's not an easy job managing a pandemic but when advice is ignored for weeks or situations change within 24 hours with a clear negative effect as a result, perhaps part of the problem is how some people see the advice given to them?

I remember a cashier in Asda once told me she was going out on holiday because the government are fine to do it, she was easily late 50s / early 60s as well.

I haven't really gone anywhere or done anything personally and even avoided going into town for shopping, think I've been twice since march.

But the message the government sends by the way they have approached this does have an impact on people. Sending kids to school for 1 day, implementing rule changes within days of each other without seeing if the first ones worked, working on a reactionary basis etc.

Perhaps more people ignore the government rules because the government appears to not be clear in what to actually do?

After all it has been shown it is fine for science officers/ MPs/ chief advisors / prime minister's family are fine to bend the rules to suit their own needs. Are you really surprised others have copied such behaviour?

I think it depends on your circumstances as well, I'm a Carer, and my Wife is a Cook in a High school, and we've both worked through the lockdowns, my wife has been in work even though the Kids haven't been in, because she has to cook meals for the Staff and Teachers who are in, and I look after a young man with complex needs, I have to go shopping for his essentials day to day, so I've never really experienced being in isolation !!!

 

[Richard Winter]

I still think the lack of trust in the government is never really mentioned in the discussion about following rules.

It's not an easy job managing a pandemic but when advice is ignored for weeks or situations change within 24 hours with a clear negative effect as a result, perhaps part of the problem is how some people see the advice given to them?

I remember a cashier in Asda once told me she was going out on holiday because the government are fine to do it, she was easily late 50s / early 60s as well.

I haven't really gone anywhere or done anything personally and even avoided going into town for shopping, think I've been twice since march.

But the message the government sends by the way they have approached this does have an impact on people. Sending kids to school for 1 day, implementing rule changes within days of each other without seeing if the first ones worked, working on a reactionary basis etc.

Perhaps more people ignore the government rules because the government appears to not be clear in what to actually do?

After all it has been shown it is fine for science officers/ MPs/ chief advisors / prime minister's family are fine to bend the rules to suit their own needs. Are you really surprised others have copied such behaviour?

Unfortunately, we as a society seem to be going more and more towards a BLAIM culture. It's never our fault, always someone else's.
What has happened in early 2020 is unprecedented. Any government would struggle to manage.
I dont always agree with some of the decisions that have been made, or the timescales of certain decisions, BUT would anyone else have done any better.
I honestly believe a big problem that hasn't or isn't helping is a big proportion of people will just ignore whatever the government say because they didnt vote conservative.

 

[HAZZA1962]

Unfortunately, we as a society seem to be going more and more towards a BLAIM culture. It's never our fault, always someone else's.
What has happened in early 2020 is unprecedented. Any government would struggle to manage.
I dont always agree with some of the decisions that have been made, or the timescales of certain decisions, BUT would anyone else have done any better.
I honestly believe a big problem that hasn't or isn't helping is a big proportion of people will just ignore whatever the government say because they didnt vote conservative.

How do you feel about the way contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds, were given to companies that were set up by Tory patrons while companies that had been in business, providing PPE and medical supplies for years were ignored or told they were not needed ? A firm not far from me have been in the Medical supplies business for Fifty years, and were told thanks but no thanks, while a Firm owned by a Friend of a well known Tory Peer, that was rebranded and the name changed to include Med, was handed a contract worth 122 million pounds !!! at least the Mafia try to hide their shady dealings, but this crowd of thieving Tory Bastards have taken full advantage of the situation, and are taking the opportunity to line theirs, and their Croney's pockets, and not even having to try to hide it, because they are classing the awards as Emergency measures !!! I just hope when, or should I say If, this thing is ever over, there is a full enquiry, and they are held to account !!!

 

[Richard Winter]

How do you feel about the way contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds, were given to companies that were set up by Tory patrons while companies that had been in business, providing PPE and medical supplies for years were ignored or told they were not needed ? A firm not far from me have been in the Medical supplies business for Fifty years, and were told thanks but no thanks, while a Firm owned by a Friend of a well known Tory Peer, that was rebranded and the name changed to include Med, was handed a contract worth 122 million pounds !!! at least the Mafia try to hide their shady dealings, but this crowd of thieving Tory Bastards have taken full advantage of the situation, and are taking the opportunity to line theirs, and their Croney's pockets, and not even having to try to hide it, because they are classing the awards as Emergency measures !!! I just hope when, or should I say If, this thing is ever over, there is a full enquiry, and they are held to account !!!

If it's true then those concerned need to be brought to justice. I dont know any specifics as to why existing companies in that field were not given contracts.
As far as I'm concerned it's not only this government that corruption to differing degrees take place, I'm sure its found in all arms of our political system.

 

[HAZZA1962]

If it's true then those concerned need to be brought to justice. I dont know any specifics as to why existing companies in that field were not given contracts.
As far as I'm concerned it's not only this government that corruption to differing degrees take place, I'm sure its found in all arms of our political system.

All Governments are corrupt, but to cash in on a National Emergency, is a New Low, even for the Tories !!!

 

[zouzounaki]

I honestly believe a big problem that hasn't or isn't helping is a big proportion of people will just ignore whatever the government say because they didnt vote conservative.

is this belief based on anything factual? i think it’s very unlikely. i’ve followed all the rules, for example, but i didn’t vote tory, or snp in scottish election. i don’t know anybody personally who would vote tory, but i also don’t know anybody who’s really been flaunting the rules, and certainly not for this reason.