MHRA slander .... is it time ?

[Mawsley]

MHRA ... "But our reseach has shown that existing electronic cigarettes are not good enough."

Picture quote: "Are not good enough" ≠ substandard or of poor quality, it is an opinion based on criteria set by the MRHA to measure standards for certification.

Actual speech: "The products currently out there are of poor quality" = stating all manufactured vaping products are of...poor quality.

If I said that I believe that based upon my research nickel cadmium batteries do not reach the standards I would like (i.e. They are not good enough) then this is nothing more than a value judgement. If I said that all nickel cadmium batteries are of poor quality then this statement directly attacks all manufacturers and their goods. The first is not actionable, the second is.

 

[Szaxe]

You just haven't got the point ... forget quality .. Every e-cig vaped clearly eliminates the harm from the "smoking" from the cigarette it replaced.


This does not mean the e-cig is safe, but you have clearly stopped the harm from the smoke of the cigarette that would have been smoked.


The MHRA have made a very bad statement ... they could have stated that in their opinion E-cigs were no better or even worse than cigarettes, but ecigs are not slight, medium or strong smoke reducers, they are vaporizers ... THEY DO NOT GIVE SMOKE.

 

[Triumph]

Im pretty sure it's a dialogue thing, WE call it vaping and THEY Call it smoking, ie we "smoke" a electronic ciggy in their eyes, I cant imagine the suits at MHRA are eu fait with vaping jargon.

You just haven't got the point ... forget quality .. Every e-cig vaped clearly eliminates the harm from the "smoking" from the cigarette it replaced.


This does not mean the e-cig is safe, but you have clearly stopped the harm from the smoke of the cigarette that would have been smoked.


The MHRA have made a very bad statement ... they could have stated that in their opinion E-cigs were no better or even worse than cigarettes, but ecigs are not slight, medium or strong smoke reducers, they are vaporizers ... THEY DO NOT GIVE SMOKE.

 

[Mawsley]

You just haven't got the point

No. I understand your point fully and, as I have explained, is not actionable. I have given you an example of something attributable to them which is actionable. I have pointed out that you are barking up the wrong tree and I really don't know how I can make this any clearer so I'm going to stop trying.

 

[Jammy]

My wife came home tonight and told me they'd banned ecigs at her work based on the MHRA and BMA reports saying they are no less harmful than cigarettes. Just had a row about it.

 

[Szaxe]

so I'm going to stop trying.

Good ... I was feeling uncomfortable conversing with someone that would turn an image of a black, muslim, activist white ... put my face and name on it and then tell me to Fuck off when I tried to point out why it wasn't proper or funny ...

 

[Mawsley]

Good ... I was feeling uncomfortable conversing with someone that would turn an image of a black, muslim, activist white ... put my face and name on it and then tell me to Fuck off when I tried to point out why it wasn't proper or funny ...

Yes, that is certainly something I would have done. You can see from my 1,342 posts how I've been abusive to people all of the time.

You have issues.

 

[Szaxe]

You have issues.

No just a line you not only crossed, but turned round pissed on and told me to fuck off when I pointed it out ...

 

[Szaxe]

Ps ... I would not have approved of insulting a black, muslim, however I would have had more respect for you had you added your own name and face rather than mine ...

 

[KulrMeStoopid]

Mawsley @Szaxe not on the forum, iffen you two wanna cat fight, the PM system is perfect for it.

Otherwise I will make you do this.

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No more of that now please and thank you both.