thanks for the help matey , no disrespect meant whatso ever but if you had posted that in latin or morse code i still wouldnt inderstand what the hell it meantTo start with, if you are looking for flavours and I see you have looked at 4Drops, I'd suggest you stick to the Inawera and Tino D Milano ranges - they are both good value and pretty ready to go - no need for Ethyl Maltol, sweetener, MTS etc etc. The Wera Garden range is more concentrated (to blow your head off levels) but often needs lots of faffing around to get right. I have yet to taste a Tino D Milano flavour that has not been in 'best of breed' class.