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4. I’m not sure what you mean?
Firstly, Hi and welcome

MTL = Mouth To Lung - like smoking a fag, take in in your mouth and then down.
DTL = Direct To Lung - as it sounds.

Depending on how you are vaping, it can effect the wattage and juice type (vg/pg ratio).

What did you mix it at? vg/pg ratio and nic lvl?
What type of vaper are you?
What Ohm coil are you using?
What wattage are you using?

Maybe try a small 10ml pre made liquid to check for flavour.

If you are MTL, try either 50/50 (vg/pg) ratio - 12mg or 18mg liquid. If you are DTL, try 70/30 (vg/pg) 3mg or 6mg pre made liquid

Good luck staying off the smokes,

Andi
 
Thanks guys for all your help!
I’m a dtl guy just seems more natural to me than mtl! (Thanks for the meaning of dtl & mtl as well)

I tried for a 70/30% vg/pg with 3mg nic based on vg!

No just a single flavour I wasn’t feeling that adventures to try mixing up flavours!

I will have a proper look at your list today for different concentrates and also some scales..

Im using a .5ohm coil and it’s set on 27w!

You guys are friendly and probably also holding your head in your hands thinking oh god he’s in over his head!

Off to go and look for scales and better concentrate!
 
:hello: and :welcome1: to the planet........
If i was you being as you are new to vaping i would use ready made juices before you go down the route of diy juices ive been vaping now for about 5 years and use ready made juice all the time now i have had ago at diy juices myself in the past and all have been disasters for me not all ready made juices on the market now are expensive you can get some really nice juices starting from about a fiver for a 50ml shortfill just add a 10ml 18mg nic shot to give you a 60mls at 3mg some are what we call shake n vape others are better with a little bit of a steep......
But my advice to you would be and this is just me try to walk first be for you try to run try ready made,s first but still do your diy juices till you get it right.
Just remember vaping is about trying out flavours to find what suits you best good luck mate and enjoy.......
 
Hi yes I’ve just been looking on ELFC and seen what you mean about the shake and go type... seems like a good idea and then I can just mess around with actual diy stuff as I go through!

Yes thanks again guys my missus has always said I tend to jump first ask questions later!
 
Hello there and welcome.

Vapable and flavor boss also do ready made juices if you can't find anything you like at the shops mentioned above.

I've been vaping for 9 months and started DIY juice almost straight away as well, and have still to find my ADV (all day vape) so although mixing up is easy, finding the right combo of flavours is hard, so keep at it.

Good luck. :2thumbsup:
 
Hi yes I’ve just been looking on ELFC and seen what you mean about the shake and go type... seems like a good idea and then I can just mess around with actual diy stuff as I go through!

Yes thanks again guys my missus has always said I tend to jump first ask questions later!
Shake and vape means you add your nic shot to your shortfill give it a good shake to mix the nic in to the juice and your ready to go.....
 
Soz - but did I miss what actual tank you are using ???
Reason being that different tanks work/don't work too great for MTL quitters

I doubt if you are using an ultra low sub ohm coil setup but if you was - best of luck with some tanks trying MTL quitting
Whatever the coil is there should be some markings and some guidelines for watts or maybe voltage

Adjusting watts to find that sweet spot of flavour but avoiding hot tank/tips or shortening coil life if overdo it

At the risk of getting flamed and piss taking out of me.....

I started out just using el cheapo 88Vape Maidens Tobacco 16mg & then down to 11mg
and even diluted it a smidge using Boots VG Glycerin (as it is 70 VG - ok for old pen mods but not ideal for tanks)

Before anybody laughs and says that stuff is shit or whatever.....
You think smoking 20 Rothmans/SuperKings tastes like strawberry cheese cake ???
£1 a bottle did the trick for me to quit fags

TBH, I was fine sticking with this pen & £1 88Vape for a while
The cost was say a £4 atomizer & 2~3 bottles = £6 to £7 a week tops which was a big saving to £55 or so a week on fags

The reason I moved into tanks/mods was coz it seemed a waste to bin a clearomiser every 7 to 10 days
I started to lower the nicotine from 16mg, dropped to 11mg then diluted it to say 8.5mg but vaped a bit more so tanks lasted a bit less

New coil for a pre-coil tank - £1:50
RTA tank - pennies + bit of muji

Sure you can make your own juice - as low as say 15p for a 10ml basic flavoured 7.2mg
but ffs you gotta mix this in real bulk like 10 litres or so to get near that
So it is a lot to lay out to save in the long run with say 5 or 6 years supply when you can try the odd bottle of Maidens or Rolling Leaf or something
(Actually Rolling Leaf to me tasted like rolled up leaves - I prefered the Maidens cheap & cheerful at the time to kick the habit)

Taste & subtle flavourings never really mattered to me that much - my taste buds were shot after 20+ years smoking anyway
So that stuff did me alright starting my vaping journey - might be worth grabbing a modestly price bottle of something
to at least give you some stability when messing with vape tweeks & all that

We all vape very differently but chiming in as an ex-smoker and still MTL-ing

I like VOB - Vaping On a Budget if truth be told

Edit.....

Im using a .5ohm coil and it’s set on 27w!

Yeah, for vaping like you smoked (taking it down = MTL)
You probably wanted to an above Ohm 1.0 to 1.5 Ohm & say 10 to 15w coil & tank
(if you was MTL-ing, though this is NOT set in stone, merely a guideline for first time ex-smokers)

You are likely producing more vapour perhaps a bit too much to take down
(vapour wise, a low 3mg is alright in large clouds, normally higher nic 12mg and smaller clouds for MTL)

You probably want a tighter draw on an above ohm coil
Imagine buying a milkshake from McDonald's that is way too cold you can't suck any shake until it warms up
Yeah you don't want it THAT tight, but draw-able but no so airy it is like sucking water/air
Like a normal fag, a tight draw as they say but not one that sucks ya cheeks together
you get the idea & eveybody's level of draw is different, but that sort of stuff is what ex-smokers/MTL do
(of a sort)

So in theory, you produce less vapour, with a higher nic and take it down using an above Ohm (ish) coil
with a tank that you can adjust the draw to a reasonably tight draw to suit your own preference
Without puffing out plumes of cloud like Ivor the Engine

BUT - by all means work with what you got maybe but you might need to alter a few things
like e-juice, coil/settings, airflow, even another tank as not all tanks are suited for MTL

But you might just go with DTL, though seemed a bit weird to me after smoking for so long
and in theory you are trying to find a method that emulates the old fags and still get your nic fix

In the end - everybody is different, but that is something along the lines of how I vape MTL
 
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Hello @Ian Farrow , Nice to meet you mate !!!
 
Welcome, well done for stopping, I`ll keep mine short, quit first on pre made liquids.
 
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