Pubs banning E Cigarettes Part 2

[gettingthere]

I don't have a problem with children in pubs either. I don't have to like them though and I avoid places which are pointedly 'family friendly'. This doesn't mean I wish to get smashed, swear or become violent.

 

[stumpey]

As above I also dont go to pubs that are family friendly and I also dont need to get drunk , swear and get into fights. But I do like a pint in a proper pub, my girls have grown up and I don't want somebody else's undisciplined child running around the table . My girls where under the pain of death to behave when we where out but others do not seem to take this stance and let their kids run riot. Just my 2p.

So for me a proper pub, no kids in the bar ( can be out in the garden or family room no problem) and vaping friendly, live music is always a bonus so its the simple pleasures. .

Steve

 

[gettingthere]

Been there, done that with my own children and have no desire to revisit. Add in that 'family friendly' will probably mean poor food, lousy service and the expectation that I wish to pay a fortune for a glass full of ice instead of the drink I ordered. I'm with you Steve - give me a child free zone with live music and I'm a happy soul.

 

[steffijade]

Spot on Post steffi ,

Personally i don't understand the problem with kids in pubs ,


Pubs have many different faces now , when i was younger and the kids were little i would not have dreamed of taking them to a pub , however pubs had to addapt to survive , too many small pubs have been lost forever due to not moving with the times .

Every small town now has options for everybody,

Take Walton , where our pub is for example , a small seaside town which you can walk round in 20 mins . Six pubs within half a mile of eachother , 3 dirty drink and drug dens where the local hoodlums hang out , real spit and sawdust types , 2 with food available for the more family orientated clientel and the royal british legion club . More than enough choice for everyone , if you want to go for a drink up , get smashed , swear and get violent go to the relevent establishment , if however you want to have a few drinks ,possibly something to eat , laugh and spend some quality time with freinds and family in a safe and freindly enviroment then thats what we provide , it all boils down to common sense really , would i take my kids out if i knew i was going to get on it and get smashed , no i would not .

I actually think that taking children to the correct pubs can teach them great social skills , and teach them to interact with other generations in a general well behaved manor .

Irish pubs ( In ireland) have always welcomed children and families and they have the best craic you'll find in any pub .

Aye, it's kind of like horses for courses I suppose, but at the same time you can't please all of the people all of the time. Individual landlords should have a good idea of what there core clientele is and are probably best served by pandering to the type of customer that brings in the most revenue.

This is what annoyed me most when they brought in the smoking ban in 2007... if they'd allowed landlords to choose if they wanted smokers in their pubs, maybe fewer of them would have gone to the wall. But that's a different rant.

If a landlord who relies mainly on dry sales for revenue can increase their customer base without pishing off their core clientele, then it can benefit all concerned. Seems like some landlords are scared to try though and take the easy option of a vaping ban. Whilst it's understandable given how hard it can be to make a living in the pub trade these days, it does seem a bit of a short sighted approach to me.

Personally, if I go into a place where they don't want me vaping it's no problem... I'll just go try and find somewhere that does allow it. Luckily for me, most of the places I go to do allow vaping.

 

[Solarnotts]

Some pubs I've been into in Nottingham are really strict about it, As i know myself working as a bouncer I've been told numerous times to tell someone to pack it in!