Should e-cigarettes be banned in enclosed public places? - Guardian Poll

[Fleabag]

Obviously as a vaper I voted no but I can understand why people feel uncomfortable when we are vaping indoors. It's a tough one as, although we all believe that the vapour is harmless and fine, there isn't proof of it. One of my work mates said today that he believes that it probably is fine but until it's proved he doesn't want it around him which I respected. The only thing is what do you do? It is totally unfair to send us to the smoking hut! So will they now have to get vaping huts aswell?

What other actvities are banned or opposed on the basis of them probably being fine but not proven to be so?
Up to now, they banned things (eventually) when they at least had strong evidence that it was probably harmful.
There's probably no risk attached to inhaling someone's coffee steam or perfume, but I'm not aware of it being proven, would we ban it on those grounds?

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[Diablo]

Obviously as a vaper I voted no but I can understand why people feel uncomfortable when we are vaping indoors. It's a tough one as, although we all believe that the vapour is harmless and fine, there isn't proof of it. One of my work mates said today that he believes that it probably is fine but until it's proved he doesn't want it around him which I respected. The only thing is what do you do? It is totally unfair to send us to the smoking hut! So will they now have to get vaping huts aswell?

As someone who hates the smell of cooked cheese, I would be happy if the people I work with fecked off home rather than stink our canteen out with it. As to vaping huts, some companies are actually doing just that. its like some interesting but crazy world or segregation. I wonder if I should feel more hard done t if when or if our place decides to build us a hut it is further away than the smoking hut. Or the cooked cheese hut, or the chewing gum hut. Then who gets the one near the alleyway where the pissheads pee up the wall out of sight of the main street. And who gets the sunny area on the corner under the tree.

 

[cheersm8]

Poll was closed, so I was unable to vote. I would have voted YES (shock horror!!) Why? No amount of vaping 'education' will ever stop smokers whinging about "if they can, why do I have to go in a smoking area?" and the anti smokers whinging about 'smoke', even though it isn't smoke, and vaping crusaders, intent on vaping where the hell they like, not because they need to, but just to prove,in an attention seeking way, that they can, only promotes even more negative whinging.
Why vapers are intent on making unnecessary waves is beyond me. We've been given a cushy little number as far as a damn good, and healthier, alternative to smoking goes, so why abuse it and feed the anti's?
There is not a vaper on the planet that is so addicted to the fix that they are unable to exist without a toke for a while.
For me, personally, vaping crusaders, intent in blowing clouds across a pub/office are doing nothing for the preservation of my continued enjoyment of vaping and are an unwanted representation of my 'vaping pass time' that I have neither asked for nor require and it, most definitely, does NOTHING to distance vaping from smoking.
Is provocative vaping good for the future of vaping? Well, the fact that 'vaping in enclosed public places' has become an issue, shows me that it is not good, successful, or positive.

Well, folks, someone had to say it didn't they?

 

[Diablo]

Poll was closed, so I was unable to vote. I would have voted YES (shock horror!!) Why? No amount of vaping 'education' will ever stop smokers whinging about "if they can, why do I have to go in a smoking area?" and the anti smokers whinging about 'smoke', even though it isn't smoke, and vaping crusaders, intent on vaping where the hell they like, not because they need to, but just to prove,in an attention seeking way, that they can, only promotes even more negative whinging.
Why vapers are intent on making unnecessary waves is beyond me. We've been given a cushy little number as far as a damn good, and healthier, alternative to smoking goes, so why abuse it and feed the anti's?
There is not a vaper on the planet that is so addicted to the fix that they are unable to exist without a toke for a while.
For me, personally, vaping crusaders, intent in blowing clouds across a pub/office are doing nothing for the preservation of my continued enjoyment of vaping and are an unwanted representation of my 'vaping pass time' that I have neither asked for nor require and it, most definitely, does NOTHING to distance vaping from smoking.

Well, folks, someone had to say it didn't they?

Yeah, same goes for those alcoholic type people, and smokers. And Coke/heroine addicts. Does them good not to be able to do it all the time. Same for people who eat. I could put a disarming smiley here to imply thats its all said in jest and not like an angry rant. But I wont. Everyone has their own opinion. But then again, just taking this at face value. Intent on blowing clouds across a pub/office? The point is that it isnt just a pub or office. The general 'indoors' theme covers everything. As you mention Pubs though. I know a number of people who stopped going to the pub when the smoking ban came in. I am one of them BTW, at least when the weather was crap as I didnt want to stand outside in the rain for a cig. But back in the day when you could, there was a smoking side to our local and a non smoking side and it was busy. After the smoking ban it was less busy. when vaping took hold our local ran with it and vaping took place anywhere and everywhere in the pub. If its such an irritant then why not move those who vape back to where the smokers once were? But unfortunately in the UK, those who want to impact any group, always go too far. Instead of leaving room to manoevre, they go over the top and totally ban it. There is a thread running elsewhere about banning vaping in public in wales. So in that scenario, you cannot vape in work. You can Vape in a designated smoking area if your company provides one (our company is split into large segments, some provide smoking areas, others dont, some see vaping as different and are ok with supplying a vaping area, while others dont). But a blanket ban doesnt see any of that and the phrase 'unable to exist without vaping for a while' is something I object to. How big a while are we talking. Are we saying if I have to go to wales I cant vape? The NHS banned smoking in your own car in a car park, is vaping under that same rule? we live in a crazy society.

I like you only vape where I do not make those close to me suffer. We are still in the early stages of finding out the whole story on whats involved with the contents of vapour, but stepping free of that particular pit of despair, what I am saying is that as far as I see, most, if not all those I know who vape do not 'abuse' it. But by us voting no we are saying that we exist and we feel 'our' rights are being imposed upon. Voting yes only joins the people who are running around causing trouble AND abusing the powers they have. From the Linda Macavens of this world down to the 'cough cough' you are vaping near me and making me cough brigade, the only thing we are doing is locking horns with the people who are actually creating waves.

Still, at least they are doing something useful in their war on ecigs. Much better than dealing with how much we as taxpayers are getting ripped off. huge tax on petrol, ridiculous car and bike tax rules. Ridiculous taxes on the cigarettes that suffer less of a threat of a ban than ecigs at this moment and for the forseeable future. High council tax bills. Less police, wasted money on performance police vehicles. NHS woes, Euro money being given away by the UK willy nilly. Immigration problems, benefit fraud, so many things that would be better to address than ecigs.

Well folks. Someone had to say it didnt they?

 

[Binbagz]

Poll was closed, so I was unable to vote. I would have voted YES (shock horror!!) Why? No amount of vaping 'education' will ever stop smokers whinging about "if they can, why do I have to go in a smoking area?" and the anti smokers whinging about 'smoke', even though it isn't smoke, and vaping crusaders, intent on vaping where the hell they like, not because they need to, but just to prove,in an attention seeking way, that they can, only promotes even more negative whinging.
Why vapers are intent on making unnecessary waves is beyond me. We've been given a cushy little number as far as a damn good, and healthier, alternative to smoking goes, so why abuse it and feed the anti's?
There is not a vaper on the planet that is so addicted to the fix that they are unable to exist without a toke for a while.
For me, personally, vaping crusaders, intent in blowing clouds across a pub/office are doing nothing for the preservation of my continued enjoyment of vaping and are an unwanted representation of my 'vaping pass time' that I have neither asked for nor require and it, most definitely, does NOTHING to distance vaping from smoking.
Is provocative vaping good for the future of vaping? Well, the fact that 'vaping in enclosed public places' has become an issue, shows me that it is not good, successful, or positive.

Well, folks, someone had to say it didn't they?

Dam fine point. I personally ask the room I'm in if I want to vape. 9 times out of 10. I get surprising responses. More than not most people don't know what vaping is. Then spend the next 5 or 10 mins in a discussion about starter kits, flavours, and why eGo and CE4 clearos are rubbish IMO. (Sorry to any users of such kit). And the ones that ask me to not vape I respect that wish and head to a place where I can.

I think there a time and a place for cloud chasing. And tend to pick juices that smell nice if going to somewhere busy. The way I think is exhaled Red Astaire smells better than RY4. In a place where the uneducated are something that simple will go a long way. And fogging up the room with our loved grey haze isn't going to help. I'm thinking that educating the masses about our loved pass time is going to be like teaching babies to walk. We're going to have bumps at first before they can walk with it. And ATM we're still at the first step stage.

Sorry just my 2p worth