Sorry if already asked - is vaping dangerous in terms of covid?

[zouzounaki]

It could be a problem with cloud chasers: they expel large volumes of air/vapour into the air with each puff. Much larger than when normally breathing.

Would that not be much the same as somebody out for a run or a cyclist, or an out of breath person, though? Thinking aboot it, I never see people puffing big clouder devices out and about any more. Haven’t for a while.

I am assuming we are talking about vaping outdoors as the only indoor place most people are going at the minute that’s out of the house is a food shop.

 

[Mawsley]

It could be a problem with cloud chasers: they expel large volumes of air/vapour into the air with each puff. Much larger than when normally breathing.

What do you think joggers do?

And what do you think happens if you bump into a child at speed compared to a fat bloke? That's massive particles for you.

 

[Mawsley]

https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2020/05/smoking-and-covid-19-evidence-update.html

 

[knome]

https://velvetgloveironfist.blogspot.com/2020/05/smoking-and-covid-19-evidence-update.html

Can you explain why smoking is down as a comorbidity? Is that now a thing that would go on a death certificate?
Apart from smoking, I would assume all the things on this graph would be a medical diagnosis. Unless they were testing, wouldn't smoking be a Yes/No answer from the patient?

 

[Leni]

Can you explain why smoking is down as a comorbidity? Is that now a thing that would go on a death certificate?
Apart from smoking, I would assume all the things on this graph would be a medical diagnosis. Unless they were testing, wouldn't smoking be a Yes/No answer from the patient?

*I’m surmising, so may be talking shite. I think smoking is down as a comorbidity because it’s something that’s known to wreck people’s lungs, so it would be logical to assume those who smoke would be hit harder by a lung-destroying virus. I doubt it would make it on to a death certificate, unless as a contributory factor, the actual cause of death would be more specific, e.g. heart attack. I think smoking would be a yes/no question, *maybe* they could do a blood test for nicotine, but a bit pointless if treating someone for Covid really ...

 

[knome]

*I’m surmising, so may be talking shite. I think smoking is down as a comorbidity because it’s something that’s known to wreck people’s lungs, so it would be logical to assume those who smoke would be hit harder by a lung-destroying virus. I doubt it would make it on to a death certificate, unless as a contributory factor, the actual cause of death would be more specific, e.g. heart attack. I think smoking would be a yes/no question, *maybe* they could do a blood test for nicotine, but a bit pointless if treating someone for Covid really ...

I found the following...

https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/2020/05/ISARIC_WHO_nCoV_CORE_CRF_23APR20.pdf

Smoking would probably be a Risk Factor rather than Comorbidity. And the smoking question is Yes/Never/Former/Unknown.

@Mawsley

 

[Mawsley]

Can you explain why smoking is down as a comorbidity? Is that now a thing that would go on a death certificate?
Apart from smoking, I would assume all the things on this graph would be a medical diagnosis. Unless they were testing, wouldn't smoking be a Yes/No answer from the patient?

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One of the authors has been asked that question, smoking is 'yes/no' and I've no idea why it's listed as a comorbidity. The figures throughout the paper are all over the shop too. It's not been published yet, it's a preprint, so changes can and probably will be made.

 

[Gert Meyers]

What do you think joggers do?

Joggers don't really socially congregate, while jogging.

Cloud chasers potentially do.

But as long as you keep your distance to others it doesn't matter much what you do, breathing-wise. The theory is that the spit/virus particles hit the floor quickly after leaving the mouth.

 

[Mawsley]

... as long as you keep your distance to others it doesn't matter much what you do, breathing-wise. The theory is that the spit/virus particles hit the floor quickly after leaving the mouth.

My point entirely, glad you agree.

 

[ZT]

Joggers don't really socially congregate, while jogging.

Cloud chasers potentially do.

But as long as you keep your distance to others it doesn't matter much what you do, breathing-wise. The theory is that the spit/virus particles hit the floor quickly after leaving the mouth.

We have masses of joggers around here a
Out and about in running groups