stay alert is it the new stay at home

[Badboybez]

The thing is, you can enforce 'stay at home' .............. how the fuck can you enforce 'stay alert'?

Well you could have peoples eyelids stapled open.
Also the police will look out for people on the street starting to fall asleep, and whack them with a truncheon to wake them up.

 

[Badboybez]

If you go by the urban dictionary meaning then this should help lol

Bloody pervert........................

 

[Badboybez]

Well I’ve just watched the speech can anyone clarify what on Earth we are supposed to do

if you work in manufacturing

drive to work....will it be open? what will be open ? social distancing? Ppe?

for me and my work there is no change but liz is asking and it’s now a shouting match plus Alfie started on his squeaky ball and I shouted at him so I’m in the dog house

The way I read into it was.

You can leave your home for exercise for more than an hour.
You can sit down on benches, or sit on the grass in a park with your family, you can even have a picnic, but must stay two metres away from others.
You can go for a walk, chat in the street, with one person who is not a member of your household
All of which you could not do.

As to work, I think, but am not 100% sure that if you work in the building trade, manufacturing etc, rather than being furloughed at 80% pay, if the company can comply with social distancing measures etc.
If you can work from home then you should continue to do so.

Some examples from my friends.
One of my colleagues from work has not stopped working, the office people have been working from home, and will continue to do so, but the shopfloor building the machines, have not stopped, but they wear facemasks, can only sit two to a table in the canteen etc.
One of my builder friends went back to work two weeks ago, as the company had made the work they were doing could be done within social distancing rules.
One of my brother in laws was furloughed, but on Friday had a call from work telling him the factory would reopen on Monday.

All the government said about getting to work was to avoid public transport if possible, he did not say you can't use public transport. The reason for this is many of the public transport operators (particularly in the cities) have said that with social distancing strictly observed capacity for passengers would only be 10% of what it was previously.

I think if people are confused they have not seen the news over the last week.
Maybe Boris could have made things a bit clearer in his speech, but as I say I did not find it unclear at all. Don't forget he said further announcements would be made on Monday, following the session of parliament.

 

[Badboybez]

It's a fucking joke Stu
How does this play out,
A shop worker who works in a shoe shop and doesn't drive who can't work from home.
Today, they have been told to go to work tomorrow, but avoid public transport, then in another statement has been told shops may reopen June 1st. WTF.

But he did not say non essential shops can open.
Simple the person in your example can't go to work, because the shop is closed, so stays on furlough.

 

[Badboybez]

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True, but the "R factor" for infection is higher in Scotland than England.

 

[Badboybez]

Mail order/online mate. I much preferred to do it that way even before the lockdown

Or click, and collect from Screwfix, Wickes, etc.
Only rigger boots, or toetectors, but hey ho, if you are desperate, and don't do online.
If you want something at the moment you can pretty much get it one way or another.

 

[Badboybez]

Hmm, that's a tricky one. They're already open so why not. It would be like not letting any supermarket sell alcohol, tobacco, sweets, chocolate, crisps etc etc, because none of those are essential products are they.
I remember years ago ( not sure if they still do it) that wh Smith used to open early but you could only buy newspapers and bits. The rest of the shop was closed off until 9.00 Weird !

Yeah, pretty much any shop that sells food is allowed to sell other things, as they have all the social distancing rules in place.

Problem with clothes shops opening is what do they do, in theory they can't have changing rooms, they would need "sanitising" every time someone tried something on, and what do you do with a pair of trousers that someone has tried on, and said they don't fit, you can't just put them back on display.

Yeah, I also remember WH Smith doing that, I also remember the rule that all shops could not sell booze before 10 or 11 in the morning because they had to stick to the same licence of pubs at the time. Annoyed the fuck out of me when I worked 19:00 till 07:00 nightshift, all I wanted to do was have some food, a few drinks and watch TV as it for me was evening, but one of the local shopkeepers knew I worked nights, so he would sell me four cans of beer in a paper bag.

 

[Badboybez]

So whats to stop a shoe shop start selling tins of beans so they can sell shoes.

Contravenes planning consent, they would have to apply for something like an A1 retail food permission from the local council.

 

[Badboybez]

Cheese graters are great for getting the hard skin off the heels of your feet. As long as you use the side that does fine grating (so I've been told). Jobs now saved

I use one of them Dremel things on mine now, and again.

 

[Badboybez]

Aye, totally agree, but pretty much everything she’s saying she asked him to be clear about in his message, he’s done the opposite. It’s like he’s listened to her saying “can you be clear about this, this, this..” and deliberately done the opposite.

He’s no communicating the strategy with the first ministers and they are reading about it in the newspapers. Quite reckless and irresponsible.

It could be said that Sturgeon deliberately does the opposite, example a cabinet minister says that Boris will make a speech to the public about lifting some restrictions, Sturgeon then announces that the Scottish government will not.

I understand your frustration about Boris not listening to what she says, but the way devolution works is this, he does not have to answer her questions, or enter into a debate with her, that is the duty of Blackford, he is the the voice of the SNP in parliament as leader of the SNP MP's, he should be raising these points in the house of commons, that is how the parliamentary process.

Most PM's will answer public question from Sturgeon, or the leaders of Wales, and NI, as a matter of courtesy, but does not have to, that is the responsibility of Blackford who can ask those questions in Westminster, and has to get a response.