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[sirflavourthefifth]

Hold on ...few questions here.....Why were esauce getting the enclosures from a different manufacturer than gingervapes...wouldn't gingervapes just supply them?....Were esauce just putting the components together?...Is Joe Turner at royalvapes putting them together also?.. or selling units from gingervapes?....how does all this work?...also..why aren't gingervapes making all the units?

Hello Terry,

Yes, Esauce is NOT an authorized dealer of the Boxer Mods and the units he is clearing out now are not the units we provide or made by Boxer. They are also not assembled by us.

We have set up an authorized dealer in the UK, Joe Turner of Royal Vapes. More information is below and they are currently updating their website:

Royal Vapes
United Kingdom
Royal Vapeshttps://www.facebook.com/beyondvapeeg/?pnref=story
[email protected]
+447956844648
Thanks,

 

[SirLugg]

Hold on ...few questions here.....Why were esauce getting the enclosures from a different manufacturer than gingervapes...wouldn't gingervapes just supply them?....Were esauce just putting the components together?...Is Joe Turner at royalvapes putting them together also?.. or selling units from gingervapes?....how does all this work?...also..why aren't gingervapes making all the units?

They were licensed by Boxermod to assemble the units in house and were given blueprints of the enclosures for them to produce, assemble and sell themselves. Gingervaper are the distributor, not designer, but they have ultimate licence for all Boxermods worldwide. The owner of the licence is Boxermod the company.
Think of it like a band writing and producing their own music, but the record label having distribution rights. Boxermod are the band, Gingervaper are the record label.
Gingervaper will sell the rights to Boxer production in countries other than the US which is what they did with esauce. Esauce' licence was indeed pulled due to their customers complaining to Gingervaper directly in their droves about the shoddy quality of units they were receiving. The Rebel was esauce's way of continuing their production of 3D printed mods. And by all accounts it's shit.

I'm not aware of any other deal for a UK distributor for Boxermods at the moment, doesn't mean Joe Turner isn't one, but if he is it's not been publicised. So I'm unsure where that's come from. Royal Vapes is a juice brand- not mod maker. There was a tender by a high profile UK modding firm for the Boxer licence in the U.K., which as far as I'm aware is in process. Not saying owt because the modder comes on here [emoji4]

Long story short if you want a Boxer made to the original high spec and made well use Gingervaper. Everyone else is kinda second string.

Edit: If the email the @sirflavourthefilth has got is from Ginger then they have licenced Joe Turner. Interesting.....

 

[ironeye]

Ok ...Thanks for the info guys ...and making it clearer ...I just did a bit of research and the original designer seems to be this guy http://www.shapeways.com/shops/boxermods

 

[sirflavourthefifth]

They were licensed by Boxermod to assemble the units in house and were given blueprints of the enclosures for them to produce, assemble and sell themselves. Gingervaper are the distributor, not designer, but they have ultimate licence for all Boxermods worldwide. The owner of the licence is Boxermod the company.
Think of it like a band writing and producing their own music, but the record label having distribution rights. Boxermod are the band, Gingervaper are the record label.
Gingervaper will sell the rights to Boxer production in countries other than the US which is what they did with esauce. Esauce' licence was indeed pulled due to their customers complaining to Gingervaper directly in their droves about the shoddy quality of units they were receiving. The Rebel was esauce's way of continuing their production of 3D printed mods. And by all accounts it's shit.

I'm not aware of any other deal for a UK distributor for Boxermods at the moment, doesn't mean Joe Turner isn't one, but if he is it's not been publicised. So I'm unsure where that's come from. Royal Vapes is a juice brand- not mod maker. There was a tender by a high profile UK modding firm for the Boxer licence in the U.K., which as far as I'm aware is in process. Not saying owt because the modder comes on here [emoji4]

Long story short if you want a Boxer made to the original high spec and made well use Gingervaper. Everyone else is kinda second string.

Edit: If the email the @sirflavourthefilth has got is from Ginger then they have licenced Joe Turner. Interesting.....

Yeah that was an email directly from ginger vapes. He's there new authorised dealer but hasn't got stock in yet. Still I'm done with 3d printed stuff now, scarred for life haha. If you do want an official boxer which is up to ginger vaoes standard then royal vapes is the place to go in the UK. That's from the horses mouth.

 

[WaitFor1t88]

http://royalvapeproducts.com/t/mods

 

[ironeye]

I actually had an early white sx350j boxer mod from esauce last year some time ...got it out it's tube and put my batteries in... the door wouldn't fit on when the batteries were inserted ...also the magnets on the door were microscopic...couldn't see how it could hold the door on securely even if I were able to shut it.....unhappy with my purchase I contacted esauce ....guess what?...they told me all 3D printing has to wear in and that the mod would be able to shut after some use ...they even said to keep squeezing it to help it along.....l told them I thought that was unacceptable for an almost £200 mod and I requested a refund and said I'd return it....luckily I did get my refund......Some months later I heard somewhere that the back door had been revised and it was now press fit without magnets ..so I purchased a black sx350j v2 version ..and to be fair its mint ...and really well made...non of the previous issues ...guess I just got a lucky good one.

 

[sirflavourthefifth]

I actually had an early white sx350j boxer mod from esauce last year some time ...got it out it's tube and put my batteries in... the door wouldn't fit on when the batteries were inserted ...also the magnets on the door were microscopic...couldn't see how it could hold the door on securely even if I were able to shut it.....unhappy with my purchase I contacted esauce ....guess what?...they told me all 3D printing has to wear in and that the mod would be able to shut after some use ...they even said to keep squeezing it to help it along.....l told them I thought that was unacceptable for an almost £200 mod and I requested a refund and said I'd return it....luckily I did get my refund......Some months later I heard somewhere that the back door had been revised and it was now press fit without magnets ..so I purchased a black sx350j v2 version ..and to be fair is mint ...and really well made...non of the previous issues ...guess I just got a lucky good one.

Yeah he hit me with all the press down firmly on it, push the batrrry sled back,hammer the batteries in with a brick. He's doing me the refund but making out like don't deserve one saying we don't usually do this as they're made to order. Proper making out like he's doing me a favour. Yeah you lucky fucker haha. I couldn't believe how atrocious the wiring was on mine either haha. I had the clip door press fit. Good idea, works shite though lol. Give me some good strong magnets any day.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Yeah that's the only one I can find in stock new seems everywhere has sold out of the old style. Was just annoyed that they apparently fixed the 510 on the rx200s but looks as though they have left this new one with the old 510. Yeah I'm starting to like the look a bit more. Jist that I bought black goon and a goon 22 and a new dark tungsten subzero for my black rebel and it won't match this one haha. Pissed.

OK, I actually prefer the look of the newer version to my one, so if you do get it I hope it grows on you .
The 510 never actually changed so don't feel robbed or shortchanged if you do get the standard 510.

Although as mentioned the Triade is meant to be a good, 3 Cell mod if you can find it. I don't have that myself, but do have the Efusion by Lost vapes, and the quality seems very good, so I imagine the Triade to be of good quality too.

EDIT: Haha, I just saw your above reply, "Hammer the batteries in with a brick"- I hope he didn't really tell you to do this lol.

 

[sirflavourthefifth]

OK, I actually prefer the look of the newer version to my one, so if you do get it I hope it grows on you .
The 510 never actually changed so don't feel robbed or shortchanged if you do get the standard 510.

Although as mentioned the Triade is meant to be a good, 3 Cell mod if you can find it. I don't have that myself, but do have the Efusion by Lost vapes, and the quality seems very good, so I imagine the Triade to be of good quality too.

EDIT: Haha, I just saw your above reply, "Hammer the batteries in with a brick"- I hope he didn't really tell you to do this lol.

Right okay no worries! To be fair my standard rx never gave me any issues with the 510 and that's been battered and had my uwell crown wrenched onto it when it wouldn't sit flush. Hopefully won't have to do it with my new one haha. Yeah that's the thing now I sent that shite mod back I'm getting a reuleaux dna 200 and a lost vape triade 250 for the same price. Happy days haha. Nah he didn't actually say that, he may as well have though lol!

 

[conanthewarrior]

Right okay no worries! To be fair my standard rx never gave me any issues with the 510 and that's been battered and had my uwell crown wrenched onto it when it wouldn't sit flush. Hopefully won't have to do it with my new one haha. Yeah that's the thing now I sent that shite mod back I'm getting a reuleaux dna 200 and a lost vape triade 250 for the same price. Happy days haha. Nah he didn't actually say that, he may as well have though lol!

Thats good to hear, my Standard RX has never gave me any issues either. although the Gemini tank it was bought with did have a slightly large 510 pin, so it would not sit flush with the mod.
For tanks like that, I just put a washer underneath, you can get them from stealth vapes for cheap, so might be worth getting some for if you wanted to use your Uwell crown on the DNA200 version.

That is really good news, and I am very happy to see this. It has changed from getting bad service, and a bad mod, into getting two really good mods for the same price! . Are you getting them from the classifieds? I haven't used them that much myself, but each time has been smooth and no problems. I think people in general are genuine on here, and when there is the odd one out that isn't, everyone soon finds out.

Haha I get what you mean. Just when he spoke of the 3D printing needing time to break in, I thought he might of really advised you to hammer in the batteries lol.

Do you have any Evolv mods? If not, go over to the Evolv site and download yourself Escribe. You can also do a tutorial there if you are not used to Escribe. At first it might seem a bit daunting, but I promise you will very quickly understand it and be able to set up those mods exactly how you want them.