UK New Rules

[Mr Ripple]

Keir Starmer responds to PM's coronavirus statement https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB19maHF?m=en-gb&referrerID=InAppShare

 

[anthonyb]

" And as the data shows it takes a lot longer for cases to drop as they do to rise. "

Why ?

 

[ZT]

Here is a thought.

All the mass gatherings back in June / july with the kopites title win, BLM , anti covid marches and more.

Why didn't the numbers spike then?

A little bit odd like, when thousands literally mass gathered

It’s not instant is it - one person gets infected , with however long the symptoms take to appear - he then infects others .

The figures we are seeing now will be in part to do with those mass gatherings, among other things. It will have spread then - you just would t see it instantly

 

[Mr Ripple]

" And as the data shows it takes a lot longer for cases to drop as they do to rise. "

Why ?

Very good question.
It was the same with deaths too.

 

[anthonyb]

Very good question.
It was the same with deaths too.

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Deaths I understand. Some died quickly so to speak, others died months after infection.

 

[zouzounaki]

Deaths I understand. Some died quickly so to speak, others died months after infection.

no, they are only counting deaths within 28 days.

edit: well, yes, but not as far as the numbers they are counting.

 

[anthonyb]

no, they are only counting deaths within 28 days.

edit: well, yes, but not as far as the numbers they are counting.

This says to me, that the no. of deaths from covid could well be higher than stated. Dependent on how many people that have died, made it pass the 28 days before they passed away, if any.

 

[zouzounaki]

This says to me, that the no. of deaths from covid could well be higher than stated. Dependent on how many people that have died, made it pass the 28 days before they passed away, if any.

i think there’s no question that it’s substantially higher than the number stated.

 

[knome]

Two new deaths indicators will now be used by all four nations in the UK to provide a full picture of both recent trends and the longer-term burden of the disease.

The additional indicators which will be used to calculate daily death figures are:

• the number of deaths in people with COVID-19 that occur within 28 days of a first positive laboratory-confirmed test. This is intended to provide a headline indicator of the immediate impact of recent epidemic activity. Deaths that occur more than 28 days after a positive test will not be included in this count.
• the number of deaths that occur within 60 days of a first positive test. Deaths that occur after 60 days will also be added to this figure if COVID-19 appears on the death certificate. This will provide a more complete measure of the burden of the disease over time.

Using these new measures, the total number of deaths in people with laboratory-confirmed infection is reduced by 5,377 if only deaths within 28-day of a test are included, and by 1,668 if including only deaths within 60 days or at any time with COVID-19 mentioned on the death certificate.

This approach has been peer reviewed by external statistical experts.

https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2020/08/12/behind-the-headlines-counting-covid-19-deaths/

 

[zouzounaki]

https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2020/08/12/behind-the-headlines-counting-covid-19-deaths/

so there will be two different daily death numbers? the “28 day deaths” and the “60 day deaths”? i don’t see how that’s helpful.